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Medals to HMS Ophir, Juno and St George 1 year 8 months ago #61976

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Fevyer and Wilson list 53 medals to HMS Ophir, 7 to Juno and 12 to St George. All except 2 of the recipients had served on other ships (shown in grey text) during the Boer War.

Ophir

Amos, J E. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: RMA4.197.
Banbury, W. Carpenter, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Bath, E. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: RMA5.509.
Blackler, E R. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 138.978.
Brooks, A J. Domestic, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 355.853.
Bryer, S M G. Engineer, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Coak, G. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 114.036.
Collins, A D. Shipwright, HMS Orphir. From HMS Partridge. QSA (0). Ref: 341.209.
Crichton-Maitland, C M. Lieutenant, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Dilton, W. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 165.933.
Dingle, A. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Fearless. QSA (0). Ref: 182.842.
Elmes, H J M. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: Chi 1.359.
Farnley, A H. Acting Chief Yeoman of Signals, HMS Orphir. From HMS Diadem. QSA (0). Ref: 147.391.
Fraser, R. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: RMA5.265.
Fuggle, W J. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 139.794.
Game, J. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful and Doris. QSA (0). Ref: Ply6.451.
Gosling, J S. Leading Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 158.692.
Gregson, J. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 278.345.
Guyatt, F. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: Po7.816.
Harvey, E. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: RMA5.641.
Herring, C R. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: RMA4.540.
Hogan, A J. Leading Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 180.318. QSA named to Niobe. Chelsea February 2006 (see below)
Holdway, W. Leading Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Fearless. QSA (0). Ref: 151.709.
Hutchings, F. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: Ply5.808.
Killan, T. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 284.177. QSA named to Ophir (see below) and Christies March 1990
Knight, D J. Acting Chief Petty Officer, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 130.376.
Land, C E. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 167.357.
Lee, W R. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Fearless. QSA (0). Ref: 183.137.
Livingstone, J. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: Ply3.396.
Martin, J F. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Fearless. QSA (0). Ref: 142.963.
McCormack, C. Master at Arms, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 109.665.
Millington, J. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: Ply6.742.
Musk, W. 2/Yeoman of Signals, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 161.890.
Norris, J. Gunner, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: RMA4.367.
Raikes, G L. Lieutenant (RMA), HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). QSA named to Monarch. See Glendening December 1988
Read, W G. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: 182.574.
Ridgway, F. Acting Corporal, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: RMA4.260.
Saurin, G L. Midshipman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Diadem. QSA (0). QSA named to Diadem (see below)
Smith, A E. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 282.946.
Spencer, E. Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 158.713.
Stockley, H H F. Lieutenant (RMLI), HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Stone, R J. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 124.598.
Stumbles, G E. Petty Officer 2nd Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 163.303.
Taylor, E. Leading Stoker, HMS Orphir. From HMS Fearless. QSA (0). Ref: 153.866.
Tildesley, J H. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: Po7.134.
Tillman, W T. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: Po8.266.
Toms, E. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 133.659.
Tye, A C. Private, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: Ch4.569.
Walker, F S. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Tartar. QSA (0). Ref: 186.955.
Wemyss, R E. Commander, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Winsloe, A L. Captain, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Wreford, F A. Petty Officer 1st Class, HMS Orphir. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 112.186.
Wright, H. Able Seaman, HMS Orphir. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: 179.875. Also on the roll for HMS Tartar

Juno

Barwell, W. Private, HMS Juno. From HMS Monarch. QSA (0). Ref: Po9.471.
Bowes, J. Leading Stoker, HMS Juno. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 153.881.
Chant, F G. Ordinary Seaman, HMS Juno. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 193.151.
Dowden, F. Ordinary Seaman, HMS Juno. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 175.472.
Gooch, J A. Ordinary Seaman, HMS Juno. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 159.697.
Le Quellenec, J A. Ordinary Seaman, HMS Juno. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 172.057.
Spicer, J G. Yeoman of Signals, HMS Juno. From HMS Philomel. QSA (0). Ref: 125.137.

St George

Bunker, S. Able Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0). Ref: 174.718.
Carpenter, A. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 187.102.
Chichester, E G. Midshipman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0).
Clarke, C L. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 166.379.
Claxton, A A. Leading Carpenter's Crew, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 145.559.
Coate, J J. Stoker, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 183.468.
Jacobs, W. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 180.568.
Johncox, E A. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 190.774.
Read, W C C. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 162.263.
Stannard, W P. Ordinary Seaman, HMS St George. From HMS Powerful. QSA (0). Ref: 173.522.
Terry, F G. Midshipman, HMS St George. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).
Walker, B C. Midshipman, HMS St George. From HMS Niobe. QSA (0).


QSA are know to Ophir. This from City Coins 69 auction, November 2018:



A QSA has been sold to HMS Diadem (Feb 1997) which is a unique award to this ship:

QSA (0) (Mid. G. L. Saurin, R.N., H.M.S. Diadem); 1914-15 Star Trio, M.I.D. (Commr. G. L. Saurin, R.N.); Jubilee 1897, silver; Coronation 1902, silver; Coronation 1911; Russian Order of St Stanislas, breast badge in gold and enamels; Belgian Order of Leopold, 4th class breast badge with swords, gilt and enamels, chipped in places; French Croix de Guerre 1914-18, with bronze palm.

Gerald Saurin was born in Leamington, Warwickshire, on 13 October 1880, and entered the service as a 13 year old Cadet aboard the Training Ship BRITANNIA on 15 July 1884. On passing out of BRITANNIA he gained 12 months seniority by obtaining four 2nd Class and one 3rd Class Certificates. He was promoted to Midshipman on 15 July prior to joining MAGNIFICENT (September 1896), POWERFUL (June 1897), BOSCAWEN (March 1899), and DIADEM (July 1899). He was promoted to Acting Sub Lieutenant on 15 January 1900 and next appointed to SYLVIA (January 1901), and OPHIR (February 1901). He served in OPHIR during the Royal Visit to the Colonies and qualified for the Queen's South Africa Medal without clasp. For some unknown reason the Medal was engraved with the name of his previous ship DIADEM and, in common with all other medals to OPHIR appears to have been issued by the War Office. He was specially promoted to Lieutenant on 6 November 1901 for services in OPHIR. He subsequently served in this rank aboard JUPITER (November 1901), GLORY (December 1903), VICTORY (February 1905) for Signal Course, ECLIPSE (March 1906), RACER (May 1906) ‘for services at OSBORNE’, ILLUSTRIOUS (June 1908), and BELLEROPHON (January 1909). He was next appointed to the Royal Yacht VICTORIA & ALBERT (October 1910) and was aboard the vessel at the Coronation Fleet Review in 1911 and received the Coronation Medal to add to the Jubilee Medal he received in 1897, and the Coronation Medal for 1902 given for service in OPHIR during the Royal Cruise.

He was promoted to Commander on leaving the Royal Yacht and retired at own request on 8 April 1913 having spent just under 20 years in uniform. He was recalled for War service joining DUBLIN for Transport Services on 1 August 1914 and transferred to the Naval Camp at Walmer on 19 August 1914. He next joined RACER ‘for Osborne Naval College’, and on 4 May 1915 was given Command of the Gunboat EXCELLENT in which he took part in the bombardment of the Belgian Coast August-November 1915. He was mentioned in Despatches London Gazette 12 January 1916, and appointed Flag Commander to Admiral Sir G. A. Callaghan from 21 January 1917 until 1 March 1918. He was superseded from this post due to ill health and was discharged medically unfit for further service on 24 July 1918 being promoted to Captain on the Retired List in recognition of services rendered during the War but somewhat unusually he declined this promotion.

His service record states that in August 1909 he was granted private permission to wear the Russian Order of St Stanislas and that he was awarded the Order of Leopold (Officer) London Gazette 1 January 1917. He died on 8 April 1954 aged 73 years.
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Medals to HMS Ophir, Juno and St George 1 year 8 months ago #61977

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This is from WO100/232p1 and p8





Fevyer and Wilson presumably omitted Juno, Ophir and St George from their analysis because they did not consider them engaged in the war?
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The Times report from 16 March 1901 suggests the medals were presented before the tour began.



And clasps came on 1 November 1901

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Fevyer and Wilson list two medals to men on Ophir from Diadem so I wonder if Saurin is not the only recipient to this ship?

Farnley, A H. Act Ch Yeo Sig
Saurin, GL. Midn
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Farnley's biography is here but no mention of how his QSA is named. The post includes a picture of him wearing his medals.

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djb wrote:
Fevyer and Wilson presumably omitted Juno, Ophir and St George from their analysis because they did not consider them engaged in the war?


Thank you very much David. My blind spot comes from the fact that Ophir did not serve in a fighting capacity and the extracts from WO100 show the men previously served on fighting ships - Powerful, Tartar, Niobe, Monarch etc. Presumably all men on the Ophir QSA roll served in fighting ships and Saurin was the one who did not?

I will look when I get home, but is Ophir included in Peter Singlehurst's book "Afloat and Ashore"?
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