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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 6 years 10 months ago #6655

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Frank,

Indeed he was. He had an interesting career and went on to be killed during the Great War serving in the German Army. I will post some information on him as he is definitely research in progress. I believe he served for a time in Argentina and is likely to have some awards for his service in that country. Researching that entitlement is proving a tad difficult!

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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 6 years 10 months ago #6659

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An extraordinary combination if correct.

Can the forum members help? Would you like to share the name and unit with us? Understand if not at this stage.

Justin

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Justin,

I would be very pleased with help on this man.

Here's some of what I have so far on Alexander von Stosch.

Career:

​Born ​​23 Feb 1874
​Leutnant​​1895-1897​ German Army
​Corporal​​1900​ Kitchener’s Horse. Served 1 yr 11 days. Also served SRG
​Argentinian Service
​Oberleutnant ​1915-1918​ German Army
​Died ​​​27 Feb 1918​

Honours and Awards:

​[Kaiser Wilhelm Centenary Medal 1897]
QSA (0) [CC OFS Tr SA01] (9705 Cpl A Von Stosch Kitchener’s Horse)

Biography: (From a variety of internet based sources)

Alexander von Stosch was killed in a fatal accident near Namur on 27 February 1918 while Vorstand of Kraftfahrstelle Namur, uniform of an Oberleutnant in 5. GRzF. His obituary in the Heldengedenkmappe states he was a participant of the war in Boer War and subsequently served in the Argentine army before returning to Germany through the blockade in 1915 by using false papers.

A check of the relevant Gotha shows that Alexander Wilhelm Leopold v. Stosch was a Leutnant der Reserve außer Dienst (retired) in 1913. He was born on 23 February 1874 at Schwerin. Alexander v. Stosch had been originally commissioned into the 2. GRzF on 18.8.95 and transferred to Garde-Grenadier-Regiment Nr. 5 on 1.4.97. He left the Army on 18.8.97, returning to service as a reserve officer in Ulanen-Regiment Nr. 12 on 12.9.02. He retired from reserve service on 18.5.05 with a view to emigrating. I then find him on promotion to Oberleutnant der Reserve a.D. on 26 November 1915 on the staff of the commander of motorized troops of 11th Army.

I do not find him on any of the award rolls that have been transcribed, though presumably he'd picked up an ÖM3K from Austria-Hungary during his Balkan’s service. Or to whatever style prevailed in Argentina, where he was an officer from circa 1905 to 1914?

Before WW1 the only medal he had was the Kaiser Wilhelm I Centenary Medal, earned for being on active duty on 22 March 1897.

I'm sure he got the ‘usual’ Iron Crosses 2nd and 1st Class during the Great War, and as a General Headquarters staff type, I'm fairly sure he would have had the Austro-Hungarian Military Merit Cross 3rd Class with War Decoration, since he was on von Mackensen's staff. Quite possibly something from Bulgaria as well, or even Turkey.

A lot of this information was provided by a couple of researchers on the GMIC who helped me in the same way as we try to help others.

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David
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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 6 years 10 months ago #6661

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This is how the QSA suspender was altered.
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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 6 years 10 months ago #6662

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David,

Thanks for posting but you should also post it on the thread I started on sleepers in the Spink Boer War centenary sale!

I remember the disk and, erroneously as it now turns out, we all thought that it had been converted into a watch fob (aka the National Scouts QSA in the 'hensoppers en joiners' thread).

What a fascinating story. I'll do some digging. Was there an enrolment form for him in the TNA or remarks on the medal or nominal rolls?

It's so wonderful to see such a medal come to life!

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Justin

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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 6 years 10 months ago #6665

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I have a couple of groups that cover the period from the Boer War to World War II, but the pair shown here stands out because it is an unusual combination of medals.

Frederick Mayfield Sivil was born in Lincolnshire in about 1873. He was a schoolteacher who settled in Durban in about 1897. There he joined the naval militia unit, the Natal Naval Volunteers, which was mobilised at the outbreak of the Boer War. The NNV became part of the Naval Brigade, with some men taking part in the 'Relief of Ladysmith' and others in the 'Defence of Ladysmith'. Sivil was amongst the latter. He was discharged after the Ladysmith siege was lifted and returned to his life as a teacher.

It seems he was not to serve in uniform again and was not on active service in either the 1906 Natal Rebellion or World War I. However, in World War II he "served for at least two years in [a] voluntary organisation in South Africa" that benefitted the local war effort and thereby qualified for the South African Medal for War Service.

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