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Examples of renamed QSAs and KSAs 11 years 1 month ago #8195

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LinneyI wrote: David and others interested: this will be a useful topic - though I must say that the relatively few I have seen renamed went from crude to passable and in several styles as we would expect. Back in the early 70's I got caught by an engraved QSA to RE from a local dealer and have been very wary ever since. It might also be nice to see examples of OFFICIALLY renamed QSA/KSA and how they were detected.
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Hello Linney.....

An early engraved QSA to the RE's would most likely have been OK as they the Officers and some erly Cavalry were also engraved.....

I like to smooth my thumb and forefinger over the edge and if it is sharp then I have second thoughts but then again it could also be an officially renamed medal as well.....

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Examples of renamed QSAs and KSAs 11 years 1 month ago #8196

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David and Mike
Thanks for replies. I am always a bit puzzled when I see the term "officially renamed" and wonder how the describer knows it is so. Some time ago, City Coins featured an "officially renamed" QSA with instructing paperwork. I had a hearty "go" at it but missed out.
Mike, the engraved naming RE QSA was definitely renamed! Was accepted at face value by myself as OK as the dealer would "surely not pass on a dud to a beginner!". Was not even suspected until an Officer's engraved QSA was obtained and alarm bells really rang. Rim had rounded edges, and the purchase of a suitable caliper showed the disc was distinctly "out-of-round". Item long since gone. Now I rely on a digital vernier if in doubt.
In conclusion, this topic could really be interesting.
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Examples of renamed QSAs and KSAs 11 years 1 month ago #8202

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I was once told that many of the QSA's awarded to nurses were "officially renamed",i.e. name erased at the Mint and then given the new name. I wonder if this was indeed the case?

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I have heard the same about QSA's issued to nurses. They do not turn up very often here in OZ. Some time ago I ran across a QSA/KSA pair (no bars) both impressed to "Miss J.M.French" on QSA and "Nursing Sister J.M.French" on KSA. The QSA shows no sign of skimming; the three diameters are 1.436/1.435/1.437. The KSA's three diameters are 1.426/1.425/1.426. Measurements in inches! Perhaps some were skimmed and renamed and some were not. I always sort of assumed that the mint struck the predicted number of QSA's and that any shortfall would be made up from skimming (if that is the correct term) returned/unclaimed medals. How that squares against the very occasional very late QSA seen struck on a thinner flan and later type of suspension, is something I do not know.
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Examples of renamed QSAs and KSAs 11 years 1 month ago #8206

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Brett, Ian,

I think that was the case too. I now expect most nurses QSAs/KSAs to be renamed but this not always the case. Possibly, the later the issue the more likely it was to be officially renamed. The doctors in the siege of Kimberley were a case in point where all the medals that have surfaced from this later roll have been renamed.

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Examples of renamed QSAs and KSAs 11 years 1 month ago #8217

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Good Morning Everyone.....

I just checked the Nursing Sisters in my collection and they have not been "Officially Renamed".....

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