Items from B137, 21 June 2023

SAGS

N 001
Bar 1879 Pte M. Mpambo Herschel Nat – a few edge nicks otherwise
VF 8000

BSACM

N 002
Tpr W. Shean Gwelo Vol
A few edge nicks otherwise VF – confirmed on roll 264 medals issued
VF 5000

N 003
Troopr Davis M.R.F.
This medal has no initial
VF 5000

N 004
Troopr R.G. Seale M.M.P.
Edge knock and a few edge nicks – CONFIRMED OF Roll Mashonaland Mounted Police
VF 5000

N 005
Troopr W. Shefield G.D.V. (Gwelo District Volunteers) Confirmed on roll only 4 issued
VF+ 6000

Natal Rebellion

N 006
Bar 1906 Ntambo Mkise Natal Native Horse – this medal is not on the Roll. It has not been renamed. Confirmed on Roll
VF+ 3000

N 007
Bar 1906 Tpr E. Rathbone Natal Carbineers – confirmed on roll
VF 4500

N 008
Bar 1906 Tpr J.A. Oates Roystons Horse – confirmed on roll – edge knicks
VF 3800

N 009
Bar 1906 Pte W. Leng Lancs and Yorks Contg – confirmed on roll only 150 issued
VF+ 5000

N 010
Bar 1906 Sgt R.F. Tedder Natal Mtd Rifles – confirmed on roll
VF+ 5000

N 011
Bar 1906 Cpl J. Gilchrist Natal Ranger – confirmed on roll
VF+ 3000

N 012
Bar 1906 Tpr A. Smith Northern District Mounted Rifles – confirmed on roll
VF 5000

N 013
Bar 1906 Tpr C. Rogers Northern District Mounted Rifles – confirmed on roll
EF 5000

N 014
Bar 1906 16 Tpr T. Walker 2nd Roystons Horse Heavily impressed – confirmed on roll
VF 4000

N 015
Bar 1906 Cpl J. Lazrus Lancs and York Cont – confirmed on roll only 150 issued
VF 5500

N 016
Bar 1906 Tpr D.P. Owens Northern Dist Mounted Rifles – confirmed on roll
VF 4000

N 017
No bar Tpr B.S. Daniel Umsinga Mil Res
Confirmed on Roll
VF+ 4000

Groups

N 018
Three: Conductor T.H. Brokensha Transport Department

SAGS Bar 1879 renamed in contemporary style
QSA Bar Talana T.H. Brokensha Dundee TN GD (Confirmed on Medal Roll – medal engraved.
Natal Rebellion Bar 1906 T.H. Brokensha Intelligence Officer – medal engraved

“Brokensha, Thomas Henry, J.P.: Solicitor and Conveyancer (estd. Dundee, 1891): b. in 1856, at St Just: m. in 1881, Sarah Wilhelmina Brillianso, of Durban. Came to the Colony in 1875, Volunteered for service in the Zulu War, also in the late Boer War: 2 medals with bars. During the late Native Rebellion was at Pomeroy, Umsign, while a detachment of the Natal Royal Rifles under the command of Capt McKenzie, and detachment of the Durban Light Infantry under the command of Capt Henderson, were stationed there. He done a great deal of service to open up the coal resources of the Dundee District: for many years Member of the Dundee Local Board: Elected Mem. On the Town Council and served as Deputy Mayor: re-elected Member of the Town Council Aug 5th 1908: again elected Deputy Mayr Aug 1910. Held appointment as Deputy Sheriff of Dundee and Umsinga Divisions for many years, and appointed Justice of the Peace October 1897/ has acted as Clerk of the Peace on several occasions. Is one of the Trustees, Dundee Wesleyan Church Is Senior Partner, Messrs Thos. H. Brokensha & Co. Solicitors and Conveyancers, Pomeroy, Umsiga. Hobby: Minerals, Clubs: Dundee and Distr.
6000

For more on the group and pictures of the naming: see Jon's post: www.angloboerwar.com/forum/5-medals-and-...s-to-brokensha#66827

QSAs

T 019
QSA Bars: CC; OFS and Tvl
21856 S. Sjt Maj A. Hamilton 32nd Coy Imp Yeo – edge knock
VF 1600

T 020
QSA Disc – naming erased
F 250

E 348
Pair: Pte W. Jones 19th Huss
QSA Bars: Defence of Ladysmith; OFS; Laings Neck; Belfast
KSA Bars: SA 1901; SA 1902
Confirmed on roll 19th Hussars. QSA Roll also confirms 11th Hussars
VF 8000

Picture courtesy of Warwick and Warwick

QSA (2) Talana, Defence of Ladysmith (Sejt 1 Leic Regt)
Army LSGC EdVII (3153 C.Sjt R. Hurst Leic Regt)

Warwick and Warwick say Reuben Hurst was born in Wigston, enlisted 25/8/91 aged 18, served South Africa 13/5/99 to 10/5/00, clasps confirmed, LSGC issued 1910, discharged 8/1/10.

Invalided 10 August 1900.

Picture courtesy of Warwick and Warwick

QSA (4) Talana, Defence of Ladysmith, Transvaal, Lang's Nek ((3923 Cpl H Goodrich Leic Regt);
KSA (2) (3923 Serjt H Goodrich Leicester Regt);
BWM and VM (22514 W.O. Cl 2 H. Goodrich Leic R);
Army LSGC GV (3923 C.Sjt H Goodrich Leic Regt)

Naming not clearly listed by Warwick and Warwick.

Warwick and Warwick.say Harry Goodrich was born in Leicester, enlisted 1/11/93, LSGC issued 1912, promoted Sgt 18/10/02, CSgt 11/9/11, CSM 3/9/14, A/RSM 12/5/15, WO2 29/1/15, WW1 issued a pair.

Now this chap was present at Talana

2nd Battalion Royal Dublin Fusiliers.
QSA 5 clasps plus KSA x 2 date clasps.
Talana, Relief of Ladysmith, Transvaal, Orange Free State & Cape Colony
Survived conflict. On to Army reserves 1903.



Dave....

The badge is a shoulder title of the Royal Lancasters (Kings Own). This unit relieved Ladysmith and then remained in Natal till late 1901. It could have been dropped by a soldier during that period, or could have been a souvenir (Boer, British or civilian) dropped at Dundee.

Thank you David,not saying they took part at battle but this badge with Lancaster on it that I found where British camp was before battle surely proof that the Lancasters were present in Dundee... Know history books say other wise but this is surely hard proof that they were here?

Frans,

This is very unlikely to have been dropped during the battle of Talana because no Lancaster regiment was involved in the engagement.

Kind regards
David

Can anyone please tell me if Lancasters were at battle of Talana.Read somewhere that someone from Lancasters received medal with clasp of Battle of Talana and received comment that that's fake because they were not at battle of Talana... But I found this other day in area of battle of Talana..

Picture courtesy of the London Medal Co

QSA (4) Talana, Defence of Ladysmith, Orange Free State, Transvaal; (5075 PTE. W.J. HADDOCK. RL. IRISH. FUS.)

Haddock was wounded on 30th October 1899 at the Battle of Farquhar’s Farm which was part of the Battle of Ladysmith which was one of the early engagements of the war. A large British force had assembled in the garrison town of Ladysmith and on 30th October 1899 it launched a sortie against Boer forces which were slowly encircling the town. The outcome was a disaster for the British, the main body of the force being driven back into the town and an isolated detachment of 800 men was forced to surrender to Commandant De Wet. Farquhar’s Farm saw much heavy fighting on this date.

Haddock would later serve with 19th Battery, Royal Field Artillery and is additionally entitled to the South Africa 1901 clasp.

The medal to Cpl Pope, 18th Hussars, sold at Lockdales yesterday for a hammer price of GBP 500. Totals: GBP 617. R 14,380. AUD 1,120. NZD 1,190. CAD 1,000. USD 750. EUR 690