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Longton is one of the six towns that became Stoke-on-Trent but this memorial predates unification. The plaque is in Longton Town Hall where there's also an individual memorial to Robert Beswick; his rank on that one is given as Trooper.

Anyone know what Private Harvey's first name could be? Seems a shame that no-one could remember it at the time.





Sergeant Henry Birks Royal Dublin Fusiliers
Corporal Frederick Barratt 2nd Shropshire Light Infantry
Corporal George Charles Gaunt 2nd North Stafford
Corporal Charles Grattage 6th Dragoon Guards
Lance Corporal Henry Harvey 2nd North Stafford
Gunner Robert Woolridge Royal Field Artillery
Private Robert Beswick Staff. Yeomanry
Private John Birks 2nd East Yorkshire
Private Stephen Davies 34th Border Regiment
Private Alfred Dawson Army Service Corps
Private Thomas Degg 2nd North Stafford
Private John Finney 3rd North Stafford
Private Harvey 2nd North Stafford
Private George James 2nd North Stafford
Private John Keenan 3rd North Stafford
Private Elijah Kidd 3rd North Stafford
Private George Locker 2nd North Stafford
Private Samuel Newton 4th North Stafford
Private Richard Philpott 3rd Dragoon Guards
Private Albert Rawlins 1st North Stafford
Private Samuel Shaw 3rd Royal Rifles
Private George Smith 3rd North Stafford
Private Roland Wheat 2nd North Stafford
Private James Wheat 4th North Stafford

Berenice
Tha Palmer roll shows "5598 Pte H. HARVEY DoD Springfontein, 26021900 2 N Staffs". I cannot see another HARVEY for the 2 N Staffs.
Regards
IL.

LinneyI wrote: Berenice
Tha Palmer roll shows "5598 Pte H. HARVEY DoD Springfontein, 26021900 2 N Staffs". I cannot see another HARVEY for the 2 N Staffs.
Regards
IL.

The official casualty roll shows month of death as April.

Beswick - trooper/private are interchangeable where the IY are concerned.

Having been through the names in details I think Lce-Cpl H Harvey and Pte Harvey are the same man. As Ian pointed out there is only one Harvey for the regiment in the casualty lists and there is only "H Harvey" on the regimental memorial in Lichfield - a Pte.

"Stephen Davies 34th Border Regiment" - no idea who this can be.

"James Wheat" - only one on the rolls whose papers survive, he was discharged (alive) in 1906. Who can it be?

Typical memorial - lots of good information and some conundrums!

This might help: re "Stephen Davies 34th Border Regiment", in 1881 the 34th Cumberland Regt. became the 1st Bn., Border Regt. I do know that a lot of the "numbered" regiments were still known by their previous title after the Childers Reforms. I did check the Palmer roll for an entry under the abovementioned name for the Border Regt and found nothing.
IL.

SWB wrote: Having been through the names in details I think Lce-Cpl H Harvey and Pte Harvey are the same man. As Ian pointed out there is only one Harvey for the regiment in the casualty lists and there is only "H Harvey" on the regimental memorial in Lichfield - a Pte.

"Stephen Davies 34th Border Regiment" - no idea who this can be.

"James Wheat" - only one on the rolls whose papers survive, he was discharged (alive) in 1906. Who can it be?

Typical memorial - lots of good information and some conundrums!

Very like some Great War memorials. There always seems to be at least one mystery man!

I wonder how the names on these ABW roll of honours and memorials were compiled? And how often did men enlist under an assumed name? Not uncommon in 1914 so presumably it was just as easy in 1899.