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Henk Loots wrote: I sold the QSA to Tpr J Kavanaugh in 2008 via City Coins, so I assume it was picked up by you

Sorry no I missed that one.....

Mike

John Kavanaugh's medal would certainly be a nice one to have, a very scarce casualty to his squadron, he had only joined it, on the 9th of February 1900 and had actually been in the regiment for less than two years.

Picture courtesy of Bonhams

[ CVO ]
Central Africa 1891-98, ring suspension, engraved (Capt C.H.Villiers. R.H.Gds.);
QSA (3) Cape Colony, Tugela Heights, Relief of Ladysmith ( Capt C.H.Villiers. R.H.Gds:);
1914-15 Star (Lt Col:C.H.Villiers. C.Of Lond: Yeo:);
British War and Victory Medal (Lt.Col.G.H.Villiers.);
Coronation 1911;
Jubilee 1935;
Coronation 1937;
Territorial Decoration;
Zanzibar, Order of The Brilliant Star, Knight's breast badge.

With corresponding miniatures which include a Royal Victorian Order.

CVO London Gazette 1.1.1941.
MID London Gazette 16.4.1901.

Lieutenant Colonel Charles Hyde Villiers was born on the 21st September 1862, he went to school at Chatham and then R.M.A. Sandhurst. He was commissioned on the 23rd November 1887. He was promoted to Lieutenant in 1889. In 1892 he was seconded into the Unyoro Campaign in support of the Sultan of Zanzibar whose lands and protectorates stretched as far as Lake Rudolph in East Africa, a vast area which at that time was in some turmoil from German and other influences and interventions. With the success of the campaign and a short period of 'ciivil' administration he was honoured with the Bright Star of Zanzibar. He returned to the Regiment in 1894 and was promoted to Captain on the 22nd December 1894. He was seconded for a second time, just three months later, but now into a situation that might have been disastrous for his career; part of the duties of an officer on overseas secondment, particularly in areas of interest would be to discover 'the lie of the land', and perhaps 'to get involved'. His secondment was to the Chartered British South Africa Company, founded and run by Cecil Rhodes. This was the ideal place and time to achieve those two aspects of military intelligence that would be much needed in the event of the threatening war with the Boers. Villiers ultimate involvement in the Jameson Raid, although not recorded in the Regimental history, is not a matter of conjecture, being noted by Elizabeth Longford in her history 'Jameson's Raid', and confirmed by a photograph of Villiers with Jameson and his surviving officers during the enforced journey on board ship back to Great Britain for the judicial sentencing that the Boers demanded after their capture and imprisonment, and eventual release to the British Government. He was received back into the Royal Horse Guards with the rank of Brevet Major, being confirmed Major in 1897. With the outbreak of the Boer War in 1899, he found himself on the way to South Africa for the third and final time, principally to help form the South African Light Horse, one of two yeomanry cavalry regiments being formed from refugee Uitlanders (British subjects forced out of the Transvaal and other territories) each of about 2,000 men.

General Buller, on landing in South Africa to take command of the British Forces, enquiring how these regiments were progressing, was plainly 'disappointed' that his staff officer, who had preceded him Lt Col Charles a Court had already appointed Villiers as Lt Col of the South African Light Horse, as he was aware that Villiers 'had ridden with Jameson in the Raid'. Villiers is however recorded as Major as well as second in command of the South African Light Horse, but also as 'employer' of that Regiment, signifying some governmental acceptance of his position and a back handed compliment against Bullers' slight. It is noticeable that Villiers' other responsibility was that of Intelligence Officer. His service in South Africa was distinguished, being mentioned in despatches, fighting along the Tugela and into the Relief of Ladysmith, where, rather ironically, some of his fellow officers of the raid were 'holed-up' attending to their new commercial interests in South Africa.

He returned to Great Britian in 1901 to marry Lady Victoria Alexandrina Innes-Kerr, a daughter of the Duke of Roxburghe.

He retired from the Royal Horse Guards on the 13th May 1903 and became an Honorary Lieutenant Colonel of the City of London Yeomanry (Rough Riders) later the same year. He became a Gentleman-at-Arms in 1907. He remains with the Yeomanry for WW1 and his MIC notes that he serves in the Dardenelles from the 12th April 1915.

He died on the 23rd May 1947.

That is certainly a most impressive group.

djb wrote:

Picture courtesy of Bonhams

[ CVO ]
Central Africa 1891-98, ring suspension, engraved (Capt C.H.Villiers. R.H.Gds.);
QSA (3) Cape Colony, Tugela Heights, Relief of Ladysmith ( Capt C.H.Villiers. R.H.Gds:);
1914-15 Star (Lt Col:C.H.Villiers. C.Of Lond: Yeo:);
British War and Victory Medal (Lt.Col.G.H.Villiers.);
Coronation 1911;
Jubilee 1935;
Coronation 1937;
Territorial Decoration;
Zanzibar, Order of The Brilliant Star, Knight's breast badge.

With corresponding miniatures which include a Royal Victorian Order.

CVO London Gazette 1.1.1941.
MID London Gazette 16.4.1901.

Lieutenant Colonel Charles Hyde Villiers was born on the 21st September 1862, he went to school at Chatham and then R.M.A. Sandhurst. He was commissioned on the 23rd November 1887. He was promoted to Lieutenant in 1889. In 1892 he was seconded into the Unyoro Campaign in support of the Sultan of Zanzibar whose lands and protectorates stretched as far as Lake Rudolph in East Africa, a vast area which at that time was in some turmoil from German and other influences and interventions. With the success of the campaign and a short period of 'ciivil' administration he was honoured with the Bright Star of Zanzibar. He returned to the Regiment in 1894 and was promoted to Captain on the 22nd December 1894. He was seconded for a second time, just three months later, but now into a situation that might have been disastrous for his career; part of the duties of an officer on overseas secondment, particularly in areas of interest would be to discover 'the lie of the land', and perhaps 'to get involved'. His secondment was to the Chartered British South Africa Company, founded and run by Cecil Rhodes. This was the ideal place and time to achieve those two aspects of military intelligence that would be much needed in the event of the threatening war with the Boers. Villiers ultimate involvement in the Jameson Raid, although not recorded in the Regimental history, is not a matter of conjecture, being noted by Elizabeth Longford in her history 'Jameson's Raid', and confirmed by a photograph of Villiers with Jameson and his surviving officers during the enforced journey on board ship back to Great Britain for the judicial sentencing that the Boers demanded after their capture and imprisonment, and eventual release to the British Government. He was received back into the Royal Horse Guards with the rank of Brevet Major, being confirmed Major in 1897. With the outbreak of the Boer War in 1899, he found himself on the way to South Africa for the third and final time, principally to help form the South African Light Horse, one of two yeomanry cavalry regiments being formed from refugee Uitlanders (British subjects forced out of the Transvaal and other territories) each of about 2,000 men.

General Buller, on landing in South Africa to take command of the British Forces, enquiring how these regiments were progressing, was plainly 'disappointed' that his staff officer, who had preceded him Lt Col Charles a Court had already appointed Villiers as Lt Col of the South African Light Horse, as he was aware that Villiers 'had ridden with Jameson in the Raid'. Villiers is however recorded as Major as well as second in command of the South African Light Horse, but also as 'employer' of that Regiment, signifying some governmental acceptance of his position and a back handed compliment against Bullers' slight. It is noticeable that Villiers' other responsibility was that of Intelligence Officer. His service in South Africa was distinguished, being mentioned in despatches, fighting along the Tugela and into the Relief of Ladysmith, where, rather ironically, some of his fellow officers of the raid were 'holed-up' attending to their new commercial interests in South Africa.

He returned to Great Britian in 1901 to marry Lady Victoria Alexandrina Innes-Kerr, a daughter of the Duke of Roxburghe.

He retired from the Royal Horse Guards on the 13th May 1903 and became an Honorary Lieutenant Colonel of the City of London Yeomanry (Rough Riders) later the same year. He became a Gentleman-at-Arms in 1907. He remains with the Yeomanry for WW1 and his MIC notes that he serves in the Dardenelles from the 12th April 1915.

He died on the 23rd May 1947.

Hello Mike,
I noticed just how old this recently resurrected thread actually was, but, I wondered did you ever manage to get an example to a recipient in the Blues?
Regards Frank

QSAMIKE wrote: Good Evening Everyone.......

Does anyone have a spare QSA, bars not important, named to The Royal Horse Guards that they wish to part with???????

Please let me know by PM.......

Mike

Frank Kelley wrote: Hello Mike,
I noticed just how old this recently resurrected thread actually was, but, I wondered did you ever manage to get an example to a recipient in the Blues?
Regards Frank

QSAMIKE wrote: Good Evening Everyone.......

Does anyone have a spare QSA, bars not important, named to The Royal Horse Guards that they wish to part with???????

Please let me know by PM.......

Mike

Good Morning Frank...… My want list...… Mike

Q.S.A. WANT LIST

CAVALRY
4th (Royal Irish) Dragoon Guards
Royal Horse Guards

ROYAL HORSE ARTILLERY
“E” BATTERY
“F” BATTERY
“I” BATTERY
“J” BATTERY
“K” BATTERY
“R” BATTERY

ROYAL NAVAL BRIGADE
BEAGLE, H.M.S.
WIDGEON, H.M.S.

ANY CANADIAN
CANADIAN SCOUTS
SOME TOWN GUARD / DISTRICT MOUNTED TROOPS

EXACT FOLLOWING SOUTH AFRICAN CONSTABULARY

2102 3rd CLASS TROOPER CHARLES WILLIAM RYALL
2072 1st CLASS TROOPER WILLIE HERBERT GIBBONS
3420 3rd CLASS TROOPER HAROLD FALTENHINE
2090 1st CLASS TROOPER RICHARD DOUGLAS MUIR
2120 3rd CLASS TROOPER CLAUDE LESLIE YOUNG