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QSA with China and a KSA 5 years 5 months ago #60747

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QSA (3) CC OFS Tr (75352 Gnr: C. Chapman, 15th W.D., R.G.A.) top left-hand lug repaired;
KSA (2) (75352 Gnr: C. Chapman. R.G.A.);
China (0) (75352 Gnr: C. Chapman. R.G.A.)

The catalogue says just 35 men of the British Army received the Queen’s South Africa, China 1900 and King’s South Africa Medals, all of them members of the Royal Garrison Artillery; see the article A Slow Boat to China - and Back Again, and related roll, by Lt. Col. A. M. Macfarlane (O.M.R.S. Journal, Autumn 1993, pp. 198-200).

Charles Chapman was born in Pulborough, Sussex in December 1865 and attested for the Royal Artillery at Worthing in October 1889. Having then served at assorted U.K. stations in the intervening period, he was transferred to the Army Reserve in October 1896, but with the advent of hostilities in South Africa he was recalled and posted to 15th (Siege Train) Company, R.G.A., in which unit he served from November 1899 until April 1901, including a period of employment in the China operations in the right half of his Company from July 1900 to March 1901. He was then posted to 14th Company and thence to No. 68 Company, with whom he qualified for the King’s South Africa Medal and two clasps, prior to being discharged back home in August 1902; a 1914-15 Trio is known to the same recipient, who died in January 1945.
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It is interesting to see the style of naming on these medals. The QSA (middle) is more similar to the China (bottom) than the KSA (top).

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DNW sold this trio to Chapman and a similar group in 2007

QSA (5) CC Paar Drie Tr OFS (78781 Gnr. G. Prince, 15th Coy. S.D., R.G.A.);
China (0) (78781 Gr. G. Prince, No. 91 Co. R.G.A.);
KSA (2) (78781 Gnr. G. Prince, R.G.A.)

George Prince was born in the parish of Bright-Walton, Wantage, Berkshire, in March 1872 and enlisted in the Royal Artillery in April 1890. Having then served at assorted U.K. posts in the intervening period, he was transferred to the Army Reserve in April 1897, but with the advent of hostilities in South Africa he was recalled and posted to 15th (Seige Train) Company, R.G.A. Subsequently engaged against the Boers at Paardeberg and Driefontein, he also qualified for the “Orange Free State” clasp for services with the 14th Company, Western Division, R.G.A. Then in July 1900 he was embarked for China where he served in No. 91 Company, R.G.A. but, with the Boxer Rebellion drawing to a close, he was sent back to South Africa in March 1901, where he again served with the 15th Company and qualified for his King’s South Africa Medal with two clasps. Prince returned to the U.K. in August 1902 and was discharged the following month.
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Based on the 1993 article by Lt Col Macfarlane, these are the 35 recipients of this combination:

Allison, R. 83941 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p128.
Baker, H. C. 87278 Sgt. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p128.
Berrett, H. O. 82707 Bdr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p128.
Boyall, G. 88220 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p128.
Chapman, Charles. 75352 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. Trio known. WO100/94p106. WO100/145p108. WO100/145p162. KSA WO100/309p39
Dinnage, C. 87356 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. Trio known. WO100/94p129.
Doak, John. 86283 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p106. WO100/145p108. WO100/145p162.
Ellis, T. Kendall. 80331 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p107 'To South Africa 30 March 1901'. WO100/145p108.
Flack, T. O. 75313 Bdr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Goldsmith, W. 84958 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Hancock, J. J. 75395 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Hayes, P. J. 78812 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Hughes, W. 81929 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Keeble, A. 79168 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p107 'To South Africa 30 March 1901'. WO100/145p108.
Killett, T. 88281 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p130.
Lawes, R. 74867 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p131.
Mitchener, C. E. 79417 A/Bdr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p131.
Moorhouse, E. 75270 Cpl. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p131.
Morrissey, J. 81838 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. Trio known. WO100/94p131.
Nash, F. 81472 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p131.
Oakes, R. 76420 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p132.
Pickering, S. 90068 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p132.
Player, C. 77191 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p132.
Prince, G. 78781 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p132.
Rootsey, G. W. 86888 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p108 'To South Africa 30 March 1901'. WO100/145p108.
Rudrum, John. 80691 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p108 'To South Africa 30 March 1901'. WO100/145p108.
Sigston, W. S. 75564 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
St. Clair, C. 74971 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
Suttie, J. 86714 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
Taylor, W. 70880 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
Tottem, C. W. G 74294 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
Tuffrey, C. 72963 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p133.
Wood, Robert. 91490 Gnr. 15 WD RGA. QSA (3) CC OFS Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p109 'To South Africa 30 March 1901'. WO100/145p108.
Woodside, J. W. 83511 Gnr. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p135.
Yeates, A. 87492 Sgt. 15 SD RGA. QSA (4) CC Paar Drie Tr, China Medal, KSA. WO100/94p135.

WO100/94 is the China Medal roll.
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There will be non-RGA recipients of this combination, one I have found in a provincial auction catalogue:

Civilian Surgeon MF Ellis: QSA,KSA,China,AGS (N Nigeria 1904)
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Meurig,

M F Ellis was certainly busy during the Boer War with the North Staffs Regiment and with attachment to the RAMC. He has 5 QSA/supplementary entries and one KSA entry. As a civil surgeon, I would be surprised if he served in China. Also I cannot find his China Medal entry.

He embarked with the 4th NSR from Queenstown on 12 Mar 1900. He left Cape Town on the Orient on 16 Nov 01 and arrived arrived back in the UK in Dec 1901 being listed as an invalid. Hostilities ended in China in Sept 1901. It is possible he travelled to China during the conflict but it seems unlikely. To receive the KSA he must have gone back to SA to serve in 1902.

His AGS is confirmed on WO100/392p40.

Was there any confirmation in the original listing?
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