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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92956

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If a man was "attached to" (rather than formally transferred into) a regiment - say he served with the ASC, but was attached to the Leicesters for the duration of the conflict - would his medals have ASC stamped on them or Leic, please?

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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92973

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STG, why not tell the medal experts all you know of the man, especially his full name and his rank, perhaps his entry on the medal roll will exist and from it they can probably enlighten us.
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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92978

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In my experience, a man's medals (QSA/KSA) would have been named to his parent regiment and his seconding/attachment to another formation would usually have been shown on the roll's margin. For example, an officer's medals in my current custody are appropriately named to the Royal Irish Fusiliers and he was gazetted to that Regiment. However, the roll margin states in no uncertain manner that "His service (was with) 2nd Bn., Mounted Infantry and (he) never served with the RIF". I have encountered similar instances of secondments/attachments quite often. Sometimes such information has to be searched out by reference to supplementary rolls and can lead to some interesting discoveries.
Following Rob D's advice and supplying your man's details will assist in your quest.
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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92984

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This isn't necessarily about one particular man, it's about the general principle. Was it a man's "home" regiment that was listed on his medals or the regiment to which he was temporarily "attached" during this conflict?

However, if you want to take one man as an example, there's this chap 949 A R Strange - last but one entry on this page - www.ancestry.co.uk/discoveryui-content/v...hstart=successSource

and as you can see, most of the entries record the men as being "attached" to different regiments (than the AOC).

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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92994

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The link you posted in your recent post simply led me to an invitation to subscribe at cost to another site. To which I declined. However, taking a look at medal roll WO100/233 (AOC) and trawling to page 81, I find that "949 2nd Cpl. A.R.Strange" of the Armourers Section AOC is entitled to the clasps Cape Colony and Transvaal on his QSA medal; which incidentally was replaced for some reason on 22/?/1921. The marginal note says that he was attached to the Leics. Regt. 29/4?/1901. As you say, several men's entries on that roll page were attached to different regiments.
Given that the Army trade of Armourer was and is a very skilled one, it would be quite normal to have such a tradesman attached to a fighting unit - to repair equipment damaged or out of order. Not only rifles and other small arms, but edged weapons and even bicycles. I attach a cut from "With the Flag to Pretoria" Vol.2 which shows an armourer at work repairing a rifle in the field.

A medal to such a man is really of interest and perhaps you might seek out any personal papers for your quest. I leave the search for any possible KSA awarded to 2nd Cpl. A.R.Strange to you.
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Regimental info on Q&Ks SA Medals 1 year 3 months ago #92995

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With the information you provided in your link to the medal rolls.
In my humble opinion the Army Ordnance Corps, in this case armourers that are attached to various regiments would have received their medals attributed to the AOC. However, if you look at 824 Armourer Sergeant J Robert's on your list, you can see in the remarks margin that he was transferred to the 1st Royal Dragoons. There are medal rolls for him pertaining to AOC and Royal Dragoons which adds to the confusion regarding your question. So it is possible that his medals may have been attributed to the Royal Dragoons due to him being transferred and not attached to another regiment. However, as IL has previously mentioned, in most cases, recipients medals would be named to their parent regiment. With regards to 949 A R Strange who was attached to the Leicester Regiment, I would expect his Queens South Africa medal to be issued with his regimental number, name and regiment Army Ordnance Corps (AOC.) On this occasion his clasp entitlement would equate to 4. Cape Colony, Transvaal and 2 date clasps 1901 /1902.

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