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I posted incomplete research. In 1910 Indian Army Orders, Suliman added a MSM to his group so not a LS&GC

In regards to bronze QSAs that remain unclaimed IAO 1907 Point one I found enlightening.

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An unusual group to a Syce in the 1st Bombay Lancers on the last DNW Auction. The IGS for the Relief of Chitral was not awarded to the 1st Bombay Lancers. However the Sudan pair was. DNW described the IGS as "officially renamed" but it looks good to me. A luck break is needed to research this chap more.

The write up on the 1st Bombay Lancers is here
angloboerwar.com/forum/5-medals-and-awar...he-indian-contingent

INDIA GENERAL SERVICE 1895-1902, Relief of Chitral 1895, bronze Syce Moobarack, 1st Bomby Lcrs.
Queen’s Sudan Medal, bronze Syce Mobarack 1st Bombay Lcrs.
QUEEN’S SOUTH AFRICA 1899-1902, bronze 8 Syce Moobarack, 1st Bo Lcrs.
Khedive’s Sudan Medal, bronze Syce Mobarack 1st Bombay Lcrs.

The Britannia Medal Fair this last Sunday seems to have bypassed the UK based members of the Forum. I went up with some of the Sussex Branch OMRS and what a day it turned out to be - two rare QSAs courtesy of Chris Dixon.

This first: M46 Dafadar Pat Ram I.P. Mule Train (Indian Pack Mule Train)

Silver QSA to an Indian which I didn't have and a unit I had not heard of. The medal roll indicates Ram was issued a bronze QSA with no clasps, the roll shows entitlement to T,DoL & LN: Defense of Ladysmith

I have been in touch with David Grant who tells me this is most likely an official replacement from Calcutta where they issued silver instead of bronze QSAs. David has similar silver medals which are impressed, Ram's medal is engraved in a typical Indian script.





The second medal from Chris I will post in the appropriate section .

Silver medal replacements for bronze medals is here

www.angloboerwar.com/forum/5-medals-and-...-contingent?start=54



An addendum to post #14895 on page 10 of this thread.

EXTRACT PARA.25 OF A DESPATCH FROM THE GOVERNMENT OF INDIA, NO 82, DATED
1ST MAY 1902
* * * * * * * * * * * 25. Under paragraph 1099 (ii), Army Regulations, India, Volume II, Part A, a follower, who
is in possession of a bronze medal, is permitted, on subsequent enlistment as a soldier, to
exchange his bronze medal for a silver one, on paying for the latter.
This privilege, however, applies only in the cases of medals granted for Indian
campaigns, and the question has now been raised whether a similar concession might not be
allowed in the cases of medals granted for campaigns outside of India, such as the operations
carried out in the African Protectorates, in South Africa and in China. Bearing in mind the
growing tendency to employ Indian troops beyond the limits of India, we are of the opinion
that a concession in this direction would be only just to the Indian Army by whom it would be
highly appreciated. We accordingly recommend that the provisions of paragraph 1099, Army
Regulations, India, Volume II, Part A, may be made applicable in the case of medals granted
for campaigns outside of India.
* * * * * * * * * * *

We have the honour to be,
MY LORD,
Your Lordship’s most obedient, humble Servants,
(Signed) A.P.PALMER.
T.RALEIGH.
E.R.ELLES
A.T.ARUNDEL
DENZIL IBBETON
F.J.FINLAY




War Office,
London, S.W.
3rd June 1902
Sir,
With reference to your letter of the 23rd ultimo, No. M.7045., forwarding an Extract
of a despatch from the Government of India, I am directed by the Secretary of State for War
to acquaint you for the information of Lord George Hamilton, that Mr Brodrick concurs with
the proposal therein contained, that an Indian Follower, who has received a bronze medal for
a Campaign outside of India, shall be permitted to exchange the bronze medal for a silver one
on payment, on subsequently enlisting as a soldier.
Sir,
Your obedient Servant
Under Secretary of State,
India Office,
S.W.

An unusual pairing with EVII head campaign medal preceding that of his mother but as you can see from the rolls Labh Singh arrived in South Africa in 1902. The QSA is a "stand in"