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selling on the forum 1 month 4 weeks ago #97489

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I have a dozen or so examples of different Crested china to get rid of (space and another purchase), all ABW related. Is it permissible to offer on the forum?

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selling on the forum 1 month 3 weeks ago #97502

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Sorry, Kuksmith, but we do not support member sales via the forum.
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selling on the forum 1 month 3 weeks ago #97503

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thank you for advice - it was courtesy to ask anyway.

Although a member for a year or so, in common with many, I read rather than post so do not have enough posts to be a Senior Member.

Forum rationale understandable; it would be vexing for one to be bombarded with trade, but I was simply being opportunist had it been in some way allowable.

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selling on the forum 1 day 11 hours ago #98379

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I am aware of the policy of this site not to allow for purchase/sale or trade of items. Nonetheless I think there are good grounds to consider creating a platform on or near this site where such commerce can occur. With the proliferation of for-profit auction houses and sales platforms combined with other cost increasing money-grab policies by e.g Ebay (their checkout system), the gap between the amount a buyer pays and what a seller receives has become ridiculously wide.

For example, I recently bought at a UK auction a folded antique map with a hammer price of Bpnd 60. The economics of that transaction turned out for Buyer and Seller respectively as follows:

For Buyer:
Hammer 60.00
Buyer’s commission + VAT 19.44
Online Bid commission + VAT 1.44
Packing/Shipping +VAT 68.00 (a padded envelop)
Import Duty 29.00 (duty applies to packing/shipping)
Landed cost to Buyer Bpnds 177.88

For Seller:
Hammer 60.00
Seller’s Commission 15.00
Shipping to Auction house (Est) 10.00
Net to Seller (approx.) Bpnds 35.00
Before photograph-, insurance, VAT on seller’s commission or other cost, if any.

So more than 80% of total payment ended up in other hands than the seller’s. Now If buyer and seller had been in direct contact, the buyer would have gladly paid 100 Bpnds plus 15 Bpnds postage. Import duty would not have been an issue as the item is well over 100 years old. Even with a modest fee for the accommodating platform, this type of transaction would have been much more attractive for the trade partners.

Any thoughts on the matter?

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selling on the forum 14 hours 50 minutes ago #98391

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EFV,

I can see the transactional benefits from the scenario you outline. However, my perspective is different and concern the risk to the site and me from any litigation that might arise from a transaction that went wrong for example not being described correctly or never received etc. Trading platforms have processes, procedures and the resources to deal with all the eventualities that might arise whereas I have none of those.

I appreciate the risk of such a scenario happening is very slight but in this area I am very risk averse.

If it is medals for sale, the British Medal Forum has an area devoted to wants and sales. If it is not medals, I am not knowledgeable about the options available other than the big players.

They are my thoughts. I am sorry they are not more supportive of the issue you highlight.

Best wishes
David
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