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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12928

coldstream Topic Author Offline Moderator Posts: 2056 Thank you received: 214	A few more to the collection Lieut.F.Roberts V.C. Paul "From a billow of the rolling veldt we looked back, and black columns were coming up behind us." Attachments:
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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12929

coldstream Topic Author Offline Moderator Posts: 2056 Thank you received: 214	Captain M.F.M.Melklejohn V.C. Paul "From a billow of the rolling veldt we looked back, and black columns were coming up behind us." Attachments:
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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12930

coldstream Topic Author Offline Moderator Posts: 2056 Thank you received: 214	Lieutenant Robertson V.C. Paul "From a billow of the rolling veldt we looked back, and black columns were coming up behind us." Attachments:
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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12931

Frank Kelley Offline Senior Member Posts: 6739 Thank you received: 958	To Fieldmarshal Lord Roberts Sir, Your gallant son died today. Condolences Buller. Perhaps a little flippant, to the point, though! coldstream wrote: A few more to the collection Lieut.F.Roberts V.C. Paul
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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12932

iaindh Offline Senior Member Posts: 335 Thank you received: 35	Did they all get VCs for trying to save Long's guns or just Freddy Roberts? Frank Kelley wrote: To Fieldmarshal Lord Roberts Sir, Your gallant son died today. Condolences Buller. Perhaps a little flippant, to the point, though! coldstream wrote: A few more to the collection Lieut.F.Roberts V.C. Paul
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Taddy's cigarette cards V.C.Heroes 11 years 5 months ago #12944

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Hello Iain,
No, there were several others from memory, Harry Schofield springs to mind, he was originally recomended for a DSO, but, this was upgraded to the Victoria Cross.
With Freddy Roberts though, it becomes rather interesting, when Buller recommended him, he threw aside forty odd years of precedence.
The original VC Warrant of 1856 did not exclude men who had been killed or indeed mortally wounded, men like Roberts for example, it was Lord Panmore that started the trouble in April 1856, he sent a letter to the War Office, in reply to a request that a certain soldier, who had been killed, be awarded the VC, he said "The cross is an order for the living!" and so it all started.
I have not looked at them for years now, but, in WO32 and WO98, you will find memoranda regarding at least half a dozen soldiers, including those from the Crimea and Zulu Wars, who really deserved the VC, but, had been either killed or mortally wounded and because of that precedent by Lord Panmore, did not receive it at the time.
Kind regards Frank

Paul, a really good card!

iaindh wrote: Did they all get VCs for trying to save Long's guns or just Freddy Roberts?

Frank Kelley wrote: To Fieldmarshal Lord Roberts
Sir,
Your gallant son died today.
Condolences Buller.

Perhaps a little flippant, to the point, though!

coldstream wrote: A few more to the collection
Lieut.F.Roberts V.C.

Paul