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Barnes serving in Nesbitt's Horse 10 years 4 months ago #24143

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I have several relatives who served in Nesbitt's Horse:

Fredrick George Barnes ( Grandfather ) from 22 Dec 1900 to 28 May 01. HIs discharge certificate records service in Bedford and Col Gorring's Flying Column.

Other family members also serving with Nesbitt's Horse are:
Algernon Carey Barnes ( my Great Uncle ) from 3 Mar 1900
William Kent Barnes ( my Great Uncle ) from 6 Mar 1900
Archie Wilson Barnes ( my Great Uncle ) from 1 Aug 1900
Samuel Lennox Barnes ( my Great Uncle, once removed ) from 24 Jan 1902.
I am interested in any information about their experiences.

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Barnes serving in Nesbitt's Horse 10 years 4 months ago #24146

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I think the best thing to do is check WO126/95-98 at Kew for any surviving papers for these men.
Nesbitt's Horse was actually raised in Grahamstown on the 29th of December 1899, interestingly, whilst they were a class C SAMIF unit, they were placed at the disposal of the Cape Government on the 1st of December 1901, they were disbanded on the 14th of August 1902, quite late on really, a fairly typical body of men and some real characters within their rank and file.
Their medals would make for a very fine and really quite rare family group these days too, WO100/262 certainly makes for interesting reading.

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Barnes serving in Nesbitt's Horse 10 years 4 months ago #24148

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Thank you for your reply.

I have got the attestation forms from National Archive, and will go back to check what else I can find.

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You mention other records at Kew. It would be helpful to have the reference no and brief description to save time when I visit. I looked at some detail on the angloboer website but could not find the Barnes individuals, as it appeared that some page(s) were missing.
The South African Mounted Irregular Forces were enlisted for the Crown. Some were clearly serving under a British Officer of the Regular Army. Others corps appear to have a non military commander. Is this so? I have tried unsuccessfully to find out about Col Gorring's background.
The "Colonials in South Africa" by John Stirling has useful potted accounts of the different SAMIF Corps. The account shown on the angloboer website for Col Gorrings Flying Column is very brief. Is there any more information

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Barnes serving in Nesbitt's Horse 10 years 4 months ago #24153

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Vast amounts of material are available for the Anglo Boer War at Kew, their catalogue is available, WO100/262 contains the medal roll for these men in your first post.
SAMIF officers were a mixture of serving Imperial officers on secondment, often with bevet rank as an added bonus, Colonial officers and various rank and file who had sort a commission, regarding civilians, some SAMIF detachments were placed under members of the new Transvaal Government, for example, although, these few latter men had military or paramilitary backgrounds, so often held a dual role.
The SAMIF was split into different sections, when Nesbitt's Horse was placed, in effect, at the disposal of the GOC Cape in December 1901, I have often wondered just who was actually paying for them.
You mention Col Gorring, I assume you actually mean Lieutenant Colonel G F Gorringe CMG DSO RE, he was tasked with dealing with a number of very unpleasant Cape rebels in the new year of 1901.

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Thanks for the information.
The spelling of Gorringe was a confusion for me, since it was not clear from the handwriting on the Discharge Certificate. Is there information on who he was?

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