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Greetings everyone,


I am a new member who would like to seek assistance in obtaining some infromation, as well as where I can get replacement ribbons for three Anglo Boer War Medals (QSA, KSA & DCM) that were issued to Sergeant William Tierney, NCO with Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry, South Africa Operations.


The following is an outline of the medals:

The Medals in silver with clasps mounted, fixed to a NINNES HYTHE retainer, appear to have been worn extensively by Sgt. Tierney. All three ribbons have hand stitches from wearing out on the retainers edge.


All three Medals have the same plain block capitol inscription:

7070 SERGT W. TIERNEY, THORNEYCROFT'S M. I. - *1

* #7070 is noted on each of the Medals. Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry Records Page #86, has #7079 noted for Sgt. Tierney.
Shouldn't these two number match?


KSA - Kings South Africa Medal
South Africa 1902
South Africa 1901

QSA - Queens South Africa Medal with ghost dates on the reverse
Tugela Heights - for operations between 14th & 27th Feb. 1900 - *2
Orange River Colony - issued ?
(Orange Free State - 28 Feb. 1900 - 15 July 1901)
Cape Colony - issued from 11 Oct. 1899 - 15 July 1901

** - Army Order #94 of 1901, paragraph #17 notes Orange Free State does not have Orange River Colony listed for commendation?
What Operation was the Orange River Colony clasp issued for?

DCM - Distinguished Conduct Medal - With out date
*** - The DCM listing on your website of known DCM Recipients, does not show Sgt. William Tierney being awarded the DCM.
Can this be updated to include Sgt. Tierney?

Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry Records:
Tierney William 7079 Sergeant Discharged 18 March 1902 at own request


Any help regarding the above will be most appreciated. Thank you to all that take the time to read and respond to my inquiry.

Truly,

D. Price
Long Island, New York

Cairn60,

Thank you for your post and welcome to the forum.

You can certainly buy replacement ribbons here in the UK. I'm not sure about suppliers in the US?

I'll double check that DCM entry.

Best wishes
David

Cairn60,

The medals rolls have his number as 7070. I think the 7079 is just a typo.

Orange River Colony was not an official clasp for the QSA. Unofficial clasps of this sort and with this name do appear from time to time. I think the Tugela Heights clasp is also a copy - sorry. Under the rules for the QSA, it is not possible to earn the Tugela Heights clasp without the Relief of Ladysmith clasp.

According to the rolls, he was entitled to:

QSA roll: WO100/277 p75. No clasps listed
QSA roll: WO100/277 p86. CC and OFS
Supplementary roll: WO100/277 p121. SA01 and SA02 on the QSA

From this, it would appear his medal entitlement was QSA (4) CC OFS SA01 SA02.

His ineligibility for the KSA is confirmed by his service dates which, from the nominal roll, are 17 Aug 01 to 18 Mar 02. The clasps on the QSA are consistent with these service dates.

Regarding the DCM, I have checked the list of DCMs to TMI and cannot find him, nor can I find any evidence to support the issue. I'm very sorry about this. I hope this omission can be resolved.

Best wishes
David