Welcome,
Guest
|
|
|
TOPIC:
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74414
|
Type I Movement: Omega, unsigned Case diameter: 48 mm Outer case inscribed: SIEGE OF LADYSMITH. / 118 DAYS / 1899-1900 / [A. CAPRON. / ORD. SEA. BUGLER] / H.M.S. POWERFUL. Dial inscribed: [unsigned] Movement inscribed: [unsigned] Serial number (on case): 1601087 (two watches examined share the first four digits: 1601) Case with Swiss ‘rampant bear’ hallmarks, and impressed: 0,935 / OMEGA / H / 12 / 1601087 Type II Movement: Samuel Smith & Son Case diameter: 51 mm Outer case inscribed: SIEGE OF LADYSMITH. / 118 DAYS / 1899-1900 / [H. THURSTON. / A.B.] / H.M.S. POWERFUL. Dial inscribed: S. SMITH & SON / 9 STRAND / WATCHMAKERS TO THE ADMIRALTY / LONDON / SWISS MADE Movement inscribed: S. Smith & Son, 9 Strand, / WATCHMAKERS TO THE ADMIRALTY / LONDON / SWISS MADE Serial number (on case): 1097367 (all watches examined share the first three digits: 109; the majority start: 1097) Case with Swiss ‘rampant bear’ hallmarks, and impressed: 0,935 / 1097367 Note: The watch to 185864 Able Seaman Frederick George CAPRON exists in both forms: Type II sold through DNW, 19th September 2013; Type I in my own collection. Both watches incorrectly engraved "A. CAPRON. ORD. SEA. BUGLER". The Samuel Smith & Son watches are the timepieces that were presented to the Naval Brigade. Those made by Omega are rejected watches, which found their way to a Southsea jeweller, who sold them to the general public as “historical” souvenirs (see below). On 29th March 1900, the Manchester Courier reported: “The members of the Naval and Military Club, London, have written to the Mayor of Portsmouth informing him that they are subscribing to present each member of the crew of the Powerful Naval Brigade with a silver watch. They ask his worship to present the watches at the dinner to be given to the brigade by the people of Portsmouth, and he has undertaken to do so”. A few days after this announcement, several newspapers inserted corrections: “There is no truth in the report that the members of the Naval and Military Club are subscribing to present each member of the crew of the Powerful’s Naval Brigade with a silver watch” (Nottingham Evening Post, 7th April 1900). The error seems to have arisen from the fact that the letter asking the Mayor of Portsmouth to present the watches was written on Naval and Military Club note-paper. Later, it was made clear that the donors, a group of “London admirers”, wished to remain anonymous. This group appears to have been a small one. A report in the London Daily News, (08/06/1900) states that the watches were "a present from three gentlemen in London". Despite the donors' request for anonymity, the identity of the principal subscriber was later disclosed as Sir Thomas Freake, ex-Mayor of Dartmouth: Sir Thomas Freake “raised the funds (subscribing largely himself) for presenting the blue jackets who were at the Relief [sic; Siege] of Ladysmith with silver watches in commemoration of the event. Sir Thomas himself designed the case, a task greatly to his liking. He is a connoisseur in design …” (Exeter Flying Post, 25th August 1900). Sir Thomas had recently returned from the Cape, having accompanied Buller’s force during the operations to relieve Ladysmith. His mission had been “to see what an outsider could do in the way of help for the suffering" (Exeter Flying Post, 25/08/1900). Illustration in The Graphic, 30th June 1900. The typeface used for the inscription indicates that this is an image of a Type I Omega watch; the caption, on the other hand, states that the watches were supplied by Samuel Smith & Son: “Messrs Samuel Smith and Son supplied the watches. The cases are plain silver full hunters, very close fitting so as to be damp-proof. The movement has a special escapement to withstand vibration and change of temperature. Instead of steel they have gold hands to prevent damage from damp”. It had been intended to present the watches to the Naval Brigade at the dinner organised by the City of Portsmouth, on 24th April 1900. However, the quality of the original watches was deemed inadequate by the donors, and, as a result they were rejected. These were the “Omega” watches. New Samuel Smith & Son watches were ordered, but these were not ready in time for the ceremony: “The Mayor hoped to be able to present each man of the Naval Brigade with a watch, but owing to the inability of the manufacturers to provide them in time he would have to pay a visit to Portsmouth and distribute them when they arrived” (Taunton Courier, 2nd May 1900). 220 [of 286] watches were eventually presented by the Mayor of Portsmouth at a ceremony conducted under the poop of H.M.S. Powerful on 7th June 1900: “THE POWERFUL PAID OFF. WATCHES PRESENTED TO THE LADYSMITH MEN. The Mayor of Portsmouth (Mr H.R. Pink) on Thursday presented a silver watch to every officer and man of the Powerful’s Ladysmith Brigade. The watches had been subscribed for by a few London admirers of the splendid services rendered by the Powerful’s men during the siege of Ladysmith. It will be remembered that about 284 men were landed under Captain the Hon. Hedworth Lambton, of whom thirty-seven died or were killed, and thirty were left behind. The presentation took place under the Powerful’s poop, and the Mayor, who was accompanied by the Mayoress, was received on his arrival by Captain Lambton. The Brigade was mustered, and as quickly as possible every member of it was handed a silver English lever hunting watch, with a guarantee as to it being a good time-keeper from the makers. On the outer case was the inscription: ‘Siege of Ladysmith; 118 days; 1899-1900’. Then followed the man’s name and rating. [The Mayor explained that the watches] were given by a few persons who wished to recognise the splendid services rendered by the Powerful’s men in the siege of Ladysmith, but they did not wish their names mentioned. He had express instructions not to let their names be known. He was sorry that the watches came too late for presentation at the dinner. He hoped everyone would value his watch as a memento of what the sailors did at Ladysmith, and that should the Navy be ever again called upon to assist the soldiers in a tight corner, it would reply as readily as the Powerful did on the occasion in question” (Portsmouth Evening News, 8th June 1900). It was also noted that "watches are to be sent to relatives of the deceased; and those who were not able to be present will receive them hereafter". Movements of the Omega and Samuel Smith & Son watches Rather than scrap the rejected Omega watches, the suppliers made the mistake of selling them on, complete with engraved recipients’ names. The discounted watches found their way to a Southsea jeweller, prompting 175555 Able Seaman George JACOBS to write the following letter to the editor of the London Weekly Dispatch. It was published in full on 14th October 1900: “Dear Sir – I would feel greatly obliged to you if you will insert the following: I, being an able seaman, late of H.M.S. Powerful, and having taken part in the defence of Ladysmith, received a silver presentation watch bearing my name and rating upon it. I have also seen one exactly the same as my own in a shop window in Southsea, bearing my name and rating on it. I have inspected the one at the shop, and it is exactly the same, but having a different number and works. I am continually getting abused by my late shipmates for having disposed of mine, which I have not done, it being in my possession now, and always has been since presented to me. I have written to the makers of the watches concerning the matter, and I have received a letter saying that my watch is under guarantee and that the one at the shop is one of a number made to the first specification, but refused by the donors, and being thrown on the makers’ hands they were sold at a reduced price as historical watches, and there were no warranties issued with them. I should feel greatly obliged to you if I can use your valuable paper as a means of letting the general public know that it is not us sailors who have disposed of our presentation watches. I should like this to catch the eyes of the donors of these presents as I think they ought to know about it. I remain, yours truly, GEORGE JACOBS, A.B., late H.M.S. Powerful. 11 Mess, H.M.S. Duke of Wellington, Portsmouth”. This was followed by a report in the Portsmouth Evening New, 19th October 1900: “The men of the Powerful’s Naval Brigade have a real and serious grievance. It appears that the makers of the presentation silver watches had the first batch thrown upon their hands because they did not meet with the approval of the donors, and these watches, bearing the names and ratings of the Powerful’s men, are now on sale at a reduced price. The impression created in the minds of persons who see these watches on sale must naturally be very unfavourable to our bluejackets, as it appears that they have made haste to convert the presents of their patriotic admirers into hard cash. In justice to these men, therefore, these rejected watches should be at once withdrawn from sale”. Able Seaman’s Jacobs’s grievance was taken up by well-known Portsmouth solicitor, Edwin J.T. Webb, who wrote to the Portsmouth Evening News. His letter was published on 20th October 1900: "[TO THE EDITOR OF THE “EVENING NEWS”] DEAR SIR, – In yours of yesterday’s date you comment in a leaderette as to the grievance which the men of the Powerful’s Naval Brigade have against the makers of the watches which the Mayor was good enough to present to them. Mr George Jacobs, an A.B. of H.M.S. Powerful, was one of the recipients, and felt very annoyed to find that a watch bearing his name and rating was exhibited in a shop in this borough. On his instructions I have been in communication with the makers, and their representative met Mr Jacobs at my office yesterday, and on behalf of the firm expressed their regret that any unpleasantness had been caused him or any other members of the Naval Brigade, and stated that the firm did not realise that in putting the rejected watches on the market they would be prejudicing the recipients. The firm now admit their error, and the watch case bearing Mr Jacob’s name and rating was handed by their representative to me; and I am assured by him that the firm has at considerable cost obtained possession of all the rejected watches, and will not reissue the same. My client, Mr Jacobs, was naturally wrath that a watch bearing his name should have been exhibited for sale, but he is now satisfied with the explanation made by the makers. I am, Sir, yours obediently, EDWIN J.T. WEBB 1 Queen Street, Portsea, October 20th, 1900". Dials of the Omega and Samuel Smith & Son watches Cases of the Omega and Samuel Smith & Son watches Postscript. The first watch to be sold at auction went under the hammer at the beginning of December 1900. It sold for £3 17s 6d. The watch was inscribed to 167361 Able Seaman Ernest William ABRAM. Was this one of the Omega Type I watches, or did Abram sell his watch only 6 months after being presented with it? Morning Post, 8th December 1900 Another was stollen from 165588 Able Seaman Frederick HUMPHREYS at the beginning of July 1900. Although the alleged thief was committed for trial, the watch was not recovered: “ONE OF THE ‘POWERFUL’ WATCHES – At Marylebone, a laundress named Mary Smith, aged thirty-five, was charged with robbing Frank Humphreys, of H.M.S. Powerful, of the silver watch and chain presented to him by the Mayor of Portsmouth, and valued at £4 5s. Prosecutor went into a public-house in the Edgware Road, where prisoner and some other women forced their company upon him. He refused to have anything to do with them, but when he left the house prisoner followed him, and in Chapel Street threw her arms around his neck and commenced to hug and kiss him. A police-sergeant was looking on, and prisoner left saying ‘You go your way and I’ll go mine’. Immediately afterwards he missed his watch and communicated with the police, who arrested prisoner, but the watch has not yet been recovered. Prisoner was committed for trial” (Illustrated Police News, 7th July 1900).
The following user(s) said Thank You: QSAMIKE, Moranthorse1
|
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74416
|
RECIPIENTS OF THE H.M.S. POWERFUL WATCH
"Watches are to be sent to relatives of the deceased, and those who were not able to be present [at the 7th June presentation] will receive them hereafter" known watches highlighted in blue (all S. Smith & Son except where noted) Captain Hon. Hedworth LAMBTON (also received a gold watch from Queen Victoria) Commander Frederick G. EGERTON (K.I.A., Ladysmith, 03/11/1899) Commander Algernon W. HENEAGE Lieutenant Michael H. HODGES Lieutenant Edward STABB (R.N.R.; died, Ladysmith, 15/01/1900) Lieutenant E.C. TYNDALE-BISCOE Midshipman Hon. Ian L.A. CARNEGIE Midshipman Edward G. CHICHESTER Midshipman Henry T. HAYES Midshipman Robert C. HAMILTON Midshipman John R. MIDDLETON Midshipman Charles Reynolds SHARP Midshipman Alick STOKES Gunner William SIMS Surgeon James G. FOWLER Fleet Paymaster William H.F. KAY (died, at sea, 26/03/1900) Chief Engineer Edgar H. ELLIS Chief Engineer Charles C. SHEEN 122691 Chief Engine Room Artificer (2nd Class) George HATCH 153586 Engine Room Artificer (2nd Class) Leonard WILLIAMS 122351 Petty Officer (1st Class) Henry Newnham BEAUMONT 100979 Petty Officer (1st Class) Arthur Reuben BENNETT 118547 Petty Officer (1st Class) Arthur BENSON 125702 Petty Officer (1st Class) Walter Clifford BLY 131366 Petty Officer (1st Class) Arthur Henry CHRISTMAS 156160 Petty Officer (1st Class) Alfred FINNIMORE (died, Ladysmith, 26/11/1899) 114734 Petty Officer (1st Class) Philip Chapman Coe GERHOLD 124261 Petty Officer (1st Class) George Henry GROVES 128225 Petty Officer (1st Class) Henry Charles Walter LEE 106776 Petty Officer (1st Class) Philip Thomas SISK 143439 Petty Officer (1st Class) Frank Camble TRIGGS 147740 Petty Officer (1st Class) William Walter TRUESDELL 85732 Petty Officer (1st Class) Richard WHITE [Omega] 147690 Petty Officer (1st Class) Silvanus George WHITE 133878 Petty Officer (1st Class) Albert George WITHERS 104560 Yeoman of Signals Arthur Sydney KNIGHT 350104 Ship’s Corporal (1st Class) Alfred Joseph LINTERN 131742 Carpenter’s Mate William Henry LOCKHART 148053 Carpenter’s Mate Samuel Thomas SADLER 131753 Carpenter’s Mate William George SCOTT 132429 Painter (1st Class) John Henry Piller HITCHCOCK 132041 Sick Berth Steward Sidney George COMDEN 124959 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Victor CONNOR 139794 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Wallace Inskipp FUGGLE 145202 Petty Officer (2nd Class) James Charles GUNDRY 136846 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Reuben Thomas HAND 148100 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Thomas HANNIFIN (died, Ladysmith, 03/03/1900) 151050 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Samuel HARDY 142785 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Alfred Arthur HICKMAN 146036 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Patrick HIGGS 145624 Petty Officer (2nd Class) George KNOTT (died, Ladysmith, 26/02/1900) 133652 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Frederick LACEY 135215 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Joseph James LEDSON 152255 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Alfred SAUNDERS 136970 Petty Officer (2nd Class) George THOMPSON 144549 Petty Officer (2nd Class) Joseph Henry WITHECOMBE 148136 Petty Officer (2nd Class) William Arthur WOLFE (died, Chieveley, 08/04/1900) 184286 2nd Yeoman of Signals Arthur Cyril BRADLEY 129975 Leading Seaman William John BURWOOD [Omega] 148889 Leading Seaman James EGAN 149587 Leading Seaman William John FORD 132067 Leading Seaman George GLADMAN 132630 Leading Seaman Charles GOSLING 143411 Leading Seaman Henry James HARDY 126309 Leading Seaman Samuel Ernest HEMMING 161769 Leading Seaman Patrick McCARTHY 137924 Leading Seaman Alfred MORRIS 156154 Leading Seaman Archibald Campbell PRATT 169393 Leading Seaman William TRIBE 139216 Leading Seaman Henry James WHITE 340450 Armourer’s Mate Joseph Shenstone WHITE (died, Ladysmith, 15/01/1900) 175916 Blacksmith’s Mate F. KING 151599 Leading Signalman Richard ATLEE 156999 Leading Signalman John Robert BRANFORD 340267 2nd Ship’s Cook William Young HENDERSON 341088 Ship’s Steward’s Assistant Joseph WITTCOMB 167361 Able Seaman Ernest William ABRAM [watch sold at auction, Dec 1900] 186778 Able Seaman John Frederick ANNETT [watch inscribed to "S. ANNETT"; with replacement bow] 187369 Able Seaman Ernest Alfred ARCHER (K.I.A., Ladysmith, 13/12/1899) 156189 Able Seaman Charles Sedgwick BAKER 136135 Able Seaman Charles BARHAM 188182 Able Seaman William BARNABY 162386 Able Seaman Alfred Charles BARTLETT 175256 Able Seaman Albert Walter BENTON (died, Ladysmith, 13/02/1900) 151739 Able Seaman Howard BEVES [Bevis on watch] 158527 Able Seaman Harry George BIGNELL 187117 Able Seaman William BISHOP 187154 Able Seaman Harry BLABER 186745 Able Seaman Henry Ernest BLAKE (died, Ladysmith, 16/01/1900) 161843 Able Seaman Benjamin BLUMSON (died, Ladysmith, 22/12/1899) 186793 Able Seaman Robert Seymour BONE 186823 Able Seaman Stephen William BOORMAN 163797 Able Seaman Hugh Henry BOTTING 151746 Able Seaman Charles BOYCE (died, Mooi River, 09/04/1900) 126651 Able Seaman John BRADFORD 133845 Able Seaman William John BREEN 123786 Able Seaman Patrick BRIEN 179974 Able Seaman Walter BRINE 156625 Able Seaman Albert Charles BROOK 181958 Able Seaman Charles William BROOMFIELD (deserted – did he receive a watch?) 154020 Able Seaman Albert BROWN 151529 Able Seaman George Edward BROWNE 156646 Able Seaman John William BUCKBY 166362 Able Seaman William Henry BUCKLAND 187094 Able Seaman Frank Edgar BUXTON 185864 Able Seaman [Ordinary Seaman Bugler] Frederick George CAPRON [Omega and S. Smith & Son] 183312 Able Seaman William Alexander CHAPMAN 156267 Able Seaman Edwin CHESSMAN 167867 Able Seaman John Harris COBBY 157046 Able Seaman Joseph CONNELL 167407 Able Seaman Charles Henry CREESE 187213 Able Seaman Thomas DEAR 169637 Able Seaman Edward Frost DUNN (died, Ladysmith, 13/02/1900) 160993 Able Seaman George Charles DURRANT 148403 Able Seaman George DYER 159638 Able Seaman John EMLY 167411 Able Seaman Samuel Lindop EVANS 184721 Able Seaman William John FLAKE 173512 Able Seaman Edward Ernest FOLEY 147596 Able Seaman Edward Jackson GAULTER 185426 Able Seaman Walter Edwin GOVER 171112 Able Seaman Benjamin GRITT 173178 Able Seaman Leonard HARMER 160850 Able Seaman Richard HARRIS (died, Ladysmith, 07/01/1900) 175566 Able Seaman Fred Walter HEPPEL 144207 Able Seaman George Henry HIGGS 186783 Able Seaman Frank HUMPHREYS 165588 Able Seaman Frederick HUMPHREYS [watch stolen, July 1900] 175555 Able Seaman George Alexander JACOBS [Omega watch handed to Jacobs's solicitor, Oct 1900] 180947 Able Seaman James JARDINE 181924 Able Seaman Edward Henry JARVIS 181755 Able Seaman George JOHN (K.I.A., Ladysmith, 19/01/1900) 183311 Able Seaman Thomas Smith JONES 151890 Able Seaman William KEEN 136180 Able Seaman Henry John KEIRL 160897 Able Seaman Frederick John KINSMAN 167357 Able Seaman Charles Enoch LAND 157995 Able Seaman Henry LAWRENCE 174149 Able Seaman Albert LEARY 159658 Able Seaman Hans Alfred LISTER (died, Ladysmith, 02/02/1900) 180475 Able Seaman Thomas Snowsell LOVESEY 144463 Able Seaman Robert MAXWELL 186012 Able Seaman Ernest Michael McCARTHY 176819 Able Seaman John McLAUGHLIN 156319 Able Seaman James McMEEHAN 131345 Able Seaman John McNULTY 175568 Able Seaman George Henry MILLS 162528 Able Seaman Peter MORAN 167251 Able Seaman William MURPHY 147469 Able Seaman James MURRAY 166323 Able Seaman Albert MUSGROVE (died, Ladysmith, 12/03/1900) 168097 Able Seaman Benjamin NEWELL (died, Ladysmith, 17/12/1899) 176081 Able Seaman William James NORRIS 175249 Able Seaman William OLDFIELD 188168 Able Seaman Tom OUSLEY 146993 Able Seaman Albert George PAYNE 186315 Able Seaman Alfred John PEARCE 132073 Able Seaman Edwin PEPPER 165456 Able Seaman John Edwin PETTIT 173135 Able Seaman John Richard PHILPOTT 125745 Able Seaman William PITMAN 144279 Able Seaman George POMEROY 122642 Able Seaman Arthur Harris RICHARDSON 146507 Able Seaman John ROGERS 149347 Able Seaman Frederick ROSS 183817 Able Seaman Thomas Herbert SAUNDERS 160263 Able Seaman Herbert SEGROTT 176565 Able Seaman William James SEMMENS 121826 Able Seaman William SHAKESPEARE 187178 Able Seaman Robert Reginald SHEFFORD 145614 Able Seaman Edward William SMEES 180083 Able Seaman Louis SMITH 187027 Able Seaman James SPENCE 191154 Able Seaman Arthur Harry STACE 168109 Able Seaman William Stenning STEARMAN 165625 Able Seaman Henry Walter STENNING 139280 Able Seaman John SULLIVAN 188134 Able Seaman William Francis SULLIVAN 173527 Able Seaman Frederick William SWEETINGHAM 183541 Able Seaman Thomas William TAYLOR 180071 Able Seaman John Edward THURGOOD 151910 Able Seaman Harry THURSTON 174952 Able Seaman Joseph TIMLIN 145028 Able Seaman Eldred TURNER 182108 Able Seaman Arthur James WAKEHAM 172753 Able Seaman Albert Ernest WARD 163366 Able Seaman Montague WELLS 190766 Able Seaman Harry WHEELER 177241 Able Seaman Charles WHITE 152299 Able Seaman Samuel Thomas WHITE 165547 Able Seaman John WHITING 144292 Able Seaman Henry Edward WILKENS 136800 Able Seaman John WILKINSON 175257 Able Seaman George Gifford WILLIAMS 175253 Able Seaman Robert Roderick WILLIAMS 162997 Able Seaman Frederick Charles WILSON 145287 Able Seaman Edward WISE 145837 Able Seaman Richard WYNN 188731 Qualified Signalman Walter DIXON 142184 Qualified Signalman Thomas KILMINSTER 186766 Ordinary Seaman F.W. ABBERLEY 186322 Ordinary Seaman Charles Hugh ARSCOTT (died, Ladysmith, 05/02/1900) 180278 Ordinary Seaman John ASHLEY 175748 Ordinary Seaman Albert CALDWELL (died, Ladysmith, 14/12/1899) 166379 Ordinary Seaman Charles Leopold CLARK 187085 Ordinary Seaman Christopher John COWLING 187026 Ordinary Seaman Alexander FOTHERINGHAM 179433 Ordinary Seaman Albert Henry FIELD 186665 Ordinary Seaman George William GLADING 186791 Ordinary Seaman Henry John HONE 190774 Ordinary Seaman Ernest Archibald JOHNCOX 172057 Ordinary Seaman John Alfred Le QUELENEC 181926 Ordinary Seaman William George MASTERS 186895 Ordinary Seaman Robert McNICHOL 182623 Ordinary Seaman Charles Ernest MINSHAW (died, Ladysmith, 25/02/1900) 172445 Ordinary Seaman John Francis NAIL 186287 Ordinary Seaman Herbert Willoughby PANNIFER (died, Ladysmith, 10/03/1900) 181688 Ordinary Seaman Henry PASSMORE 181120 Ordinary Seaman George PEATTIE 162263 Ordinary Seaman William Charles Cameron READ 180964 Ordinary Seaman John Henry RHODES 192235 Ordinary Seaman Charles Frank RICHARDS 187100 Ordinary Seaman Edward Douglas SLADE 187490 Ordinary Seaman John SMITH 186884 Ordinary Seaman Robert STEWART 175300 Ordinary Seaman Henry TREVETT 170909 Ordinary Seaman Dudley James WHEELER (K.I.A., Ladysmith, 23/01/1900) 181844 Signalman Ernest Edward DEXTER (died, Ladysmith, 20/12/1899) Po. 4949 Private S.D. AYERST (R.M.L.I.) Po. 8433 Private William A. BENNETT (R.M.L.I.) Po. 7118 Private Frederick MARTIN (R.M.L.I.) Ch. 6207 Private Herbert NEWMAN (R.M.L.I.; died, Ladysmith, 05/02/1900) 281121 Stoker Richard ADAMS 144770 Stoker Frederick ALLEN 277042 Stoker E. ASHDOWN 283367 Stoker James Charles BLAKE 283955 Stoker Robert BOWEN 281096 Stoker Henry Joseph BOWMAN 192332 Stoker Charles BURCHELL 159031 Stoker George William BURTON 153771 Stoker Albert CLAPP 283162 Stoker John COLE 282660 Stoker Charles COOMBES 174377 Stoker Jeremiah CROWLEY 129739 Stoker Albert Edward DALLAS 176594 Stoker William Henry DANCY 276497 Stoker Thomas DAVIES 282956 Stoker Albert Edward DENNY 122786 Stoker John DOEL 282545 Stoker George ELLIS 283932 Stoker Thomas FRENCH 282698 Stoker Harry William George GARDNER (died, Ladysmith, 01/03/1900) 283450 Stoker William Edward GATEHOUSE 282688 Stoker Walter Edward HAGGAR 282672 Stoker William Ernest HARRISS 158054 Stoker Henry Thomas HIPPERSON 154551 Stoker Henry John ISAACS 175914 Stoker William JAMES 281253 Stoker William Samuel JOHNSON 175883 Stoker John LEATHER (K.I.A., Ladysmith, 09/01/1900) 175358 Stoker Charles William LUDLOW 279325 Stoker Albert MOORE 282134 Stoker Joseph MOTT [Molt on watch] 282232 Stoker William NEWLING 167204 Stoker Reginald NOTTON 282980 Stoker Alfred William PARISEY 282960 Stoker David PATON (died, Ladysmith, 05/03/1900) 282955 Stoker Charles William PILGRIM 175896 Stoker John PILKINGTON 281935 Stoker Douglas Hastings RAMSAY 282713 Stoker Arthur Percy ROLLS (died, Chieveley, 07/04/1900) 284358 Stoker Thomas Jasper SCOTT 279770 Stoker George SEARES (died, Ladysmith, 24/12/1899) 278297 Stoker James SHEVLIN 282946 Stoker Archibald Ernest SMITH 280798 Stoker Martin STENTON 283896 Stoker John Arthur TROKE 282241 Stoker William George WATERS 154739 Stoker Alfred WHEELER 283157 Stoker Robert WHYTE 160756 Stoker Joseph WILLS 169301 Stoker Charles WINCHESTER 281118 Stoker Edward WYKES 341309 Armourer’s Crew Alfred Henry ADAMES 340131 Armourer’s Crew Frederick JOHNSON (died, Intombi Camp, 19/03/1900) 340014 Cook’s Mate Walter James COUZENS TOTAL: 286
The following user(s) said Thank You: QSAMIKE, gavmedals, Moranthorse1
|
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74508
|
My Great Grandfather was 153771 Stoker Albert Clapp. We have his Naval long service, South Africa and first world war medals together with certificates and his pocket watch together with his service papers, photos and an oil painting of him in uniform from about the Boer war time. He lived in Poole Dorset (apart from the First World War when the family moved to Portsmouth).
Thought it might be of interest that his watch is still in existence for the list of watches issued. Found the watch article very interesting.
The following user(s) said Thank You: Neville_C
|
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74518
|
Thank you Terry,
I have updated the list, showing your great grandfather's watch as extant. I assume it is one of the Samuel Smith & Son watches. Neville |
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74533
|
Hi Neville, thank you,
We have checked and it is a Smith and son. It has a solid silver chain with it. Were these part of the presentation? cheers Terry |
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
H.M.S. Powerful - The Siege of Ladysmith Watches 4 years 1 month ago #74535
|
Terry,
All the reports I have come across mention watches only. So, I suspect the chain was added by your great grandfather. Neville |
Please Log in or Create an account to join the conversation. |
|
|
Moderators: djb
Time to create page: 1.121 seconds
- You are here:
-
ABW home page
-
Forum
-
Medal rolls
-
ABO
-
Surname R
- Roux, Rudolph Johannes. Burger