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VC Recommendations in the TNA? 1 year 5 months ago #92204

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A post on the above iro Sanna's Post prompted me to start a new thread and ask a similar question.

I have the medals to two chaps who were put forward for the VC for the Natal theatre.

- Dr Robert Andrew Buntine, a Captain with the Natal Medical Corps during the Siege of Ladysmith for bringing a man in under fire outside the town just prior to the siege.
- Arthur Edward Brabant, a Lieutenant with the Imperial Light Horse for rallying the troops at Elandslaagte.

Would there be any written recommendations on file for these two in the TNA (or elsewhere)?

Both were declined - in the case of Buntine because General Sir George White (apparently) disapproved of a Colonial (and a Doctor) risking his life and, in the case of Brabant, because only 2 were allowed to be awarded for the Elandslaagte action (per regiment) and Mullins and Johnston were given the nod.

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VC Recommendations in the TNA? 1 year 5 months ago #92205

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Was the limitation by way of Field Order ? because it is certainly not in the VC Warrant.

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VC Recommendations in the TNA? 1 year 5 months ago #92206

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I'm stumped by my lack of know-how with this Simon. What i have is based on what some authors have reported (in the case of Buntine) and a comment by author Hugh Rethman in his book The Natal Campaign - A Sacrifice Betrayed.

Iro Buntine -

William Harding in his “War in South Africa” wrote: - “It was in the very first fight of the campaign that Dr Buntine, the Victorian surgeon, distinguished himself. The volunteers with whom he served were the first to get touch with the Boers of the Free State commandos as they came through Van Reenen’s Pass. They engaged the enemy but were compelled to retreat, and Dr Buntine seeing one of his men down, rode back under a heavy fire, placed the wounded man behind him on his horse, and rode back in safety with his burden to the regiment. Later on in the campaign it became necessary to discourage brave exploits of this particular kind, and Sir George White issued a general order in which he pointed out that there was no reason to assume that the wounded would be treated otherwise than humanely by the Boers, and consequently it was very undesirable that men should leave the ranks to help a wounded comrade.

Dr Buntine, however, was the first man to attempt the dangerous feat of rescuing a wounded man under fire, and his action was regarded at the time as one which entitled him to the Victoria Cross, for which indeed his name was mentioned, and which he probably would have received but for the necessity which afterwards arose of discouraging similar acts of rescue. Both Dr Hornabrook and Dr Buntine at the very outset of the campaign afforded by their conduct under fire many examples of the cool courage and resourcefulness which have distinguished the Australians all through the war.”

In respect of Brabant: -

Page 138 Rethman - "Subsequently it was recommended that four members of the Imperial Light Horse be awarded the Victoria Cross. They were Major Aubrey Woolls Sampson, Captain Charles Herbert Mullins, Captain Robert Johnstone and Lieutenant A.E. Brabant.

Page 139 Rethman - "In due course a reply was received from the War Office in London stating that while Colonel Woolls Sampson evidently led his men with much gallantry, Lord Wolseley does not feel his conduct was sufficiently exceptional to call for the bestowal of the great favour of the Victoria Cross. With respect to the other three, the War Office apparently felt that all three deserved the award but were only prepared to award two to the regiment. The responsibility of deciding on whom these much prized decorations should be conferred fell on the I.L.H. Adjutant, Captain Barnes. Barnes consulted with the regiment and it was decided that the award should go to Mullins and Johnstone, though all felt that Brabant had also deserved it.

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Hi Rory,

Sounds very much like it that Dr Buntine was an attached civilian surgeon as he is not referred to by any rank . If this is the case I am not surprised at the reticence to put forward the recommendation.

In the case of Brabant I would suggest it had more to do with the CinC in Horse Guards than anything else.

Not much help I am afraid

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When I was searching WO32 on Saturday, I was surprised by the lack of information in the items i was looking et (eg WO32-7878). I know that letters of support were written for example in the case of the Mafeking VCs, but I have yet to locate them.
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