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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 9 years 8 months ago #25676

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Hi

Another "old friend" coming to light again!
I sold Meyler's group in 2001 for £3500 : wonder what it will hammer for this time around.
Meyler also received the Incorporated Law Societies' Tribute Medal.

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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 9 years 8 months ago #25697

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Jon,

As you say, a very unfitting ending to his life.
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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 9 years 8 months ago #25735

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An unusual medal combination because it includes two QSA's to the same man. Also in DNW March 2015.

Ok maybe not that unusual ..... but I do like the QSA with 4 state bars (Cape Colony, Rhodesia, Orange Free State, Transvaal) - you cannot get more than that and this must be quite rare. The only other 4 bar would be the same but with Natal instead of Cape Colony - even rarer I would guess ?? - anyone know ??. That said the group reserve is 1600-1800 pounds which seems huge - is that for the QSA or who he was or ?




Five: Captain F. St. J. Barton, Hampshire Regiment, late Victorian Mounted Rifles, killed in action in the battle of Nasiriya in July 1915

Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, no clasp (123 Corl. F. St. J. Barton, Victorian M.R.); Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, 4 clasps, Cape Colony, Rhodesia, Orange Free State, Transvaal (Lieut. F. St. J. Barton, 2/Hamp. Rgt.); King’s South Africa 1901-02, 2 clasps, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902 (Lt. F. St. J. Barton, Hamp. Rgt.); 1914-15 Star (Capt. F. St. J. Barton. Hamps R.); British War and Victory Medals, with M.I.D. oak leaf (Capt. F. St. J. Barton) together with Bronze Memorial Plaque (Frederick St. John Barton) the last five mounted with plaque for display, nearly extremely fine £1600-1800


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M.I.D. London Gazette 6 April 1916, for services in the Euphrates operations, 24 June to 26 July 1915.

Frederick St John Barton was born at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, on 6 May 1876, 4th son of Robert Barton, Malvern, Victoria, formerly Deputy Master of Melbourne Branch, Royal Mint. He was educated at Toorak College, near Melbourne, and volunteered and enlisted in the 5th Victoria Contingent during the South African War. He was then transferred as Sergeant to the Rhodesian Artillery, and afterwards gazetted 2nd Lieutenant into the 2nd Hampshire Regiment on 19 May 1900, at the recommendation of the Governor of Victoria. He was promoted to Lieutenant in March 1902 and to Captain in January 1907. He took part in the operations in Rhodesia, May 1900, and in the Transvaal and west of Pretoria in May to June 1901; and in the Orange River Colony, July to October 1901 (Queen’s Medal with 4 clasps; King’s Medal with two clasps). He served as Adjutant to the 1st Battalion from March 1909 to March 1912, and to the 4th Territorial Battalion from November 1912. He went to India with his battalion in October 1914, after the outbreak of the European War, and from there to Mesopotamia in March 1915, and was killed in action at the battle of Nasiriya, 24 July 1915.

Sold with an Army Post Card home to his wife ‘I am quite well’, signed ‘Fred 4/5/15’, two news cuttings and a copied portrait photograph, together with other research.

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An unusual medal combination because it includes two QSA's to the same man. Also in DNW March 2015.

Ok maybe not that unusual ..... but I do like the QSA with 4 state bars (Cape Colony, Rhodesia, Orange Free State, Transvaal) - you cannot get more than that and this must be quite rare. The only other 4 bar would be the same but with Natal instead of Cape Colony - even rarer I would guess ?? - anyone know ??. That said the group reserve is 1600-1800 pounds which seems huge - is that for the QSA or who he was or ?




Five: Captain F. St. J. Barton, Hampshire Regiment, late Victorian Mounted Rifles, killed in action in the battle of Nasiriya in July 1915

Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, no clasp (123 Corl. F. St. J. Barton, Victorian M.R.); Queen’s South Africa 1899-1902, 4 clasps, Cape Colony, Rhodesia, Orange Free State, Transvaal (Lieut. F. St. J. Barton, 2/Hamp. Rgt.); King’s South Africa 1901-02, 2 clasps, South Africa 1901, South Africa 1902 (Lt. F. St. J. Barton, Hamp. Rgt.); 1914-15 Star (Capt. F. St. J. Barton. Hamps R.); British War and Victory Medals, with M.I.D. oak leaf (Capt. F. St. J. Barton) together with Bronze Memorial Plaque (Frederick St. John Barton) the last five mounted with plaque for display, nearly extremely fine £1600-1800


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M.I.D. London Gazette 6 April 1916, for services in the Euphrates operations, 24 June to 26 July 1915.

Frederick St John Barton was born at Melbourne, Victoria, Australia, on 6 May 1876, 4th son of Robert Barton, Malvern, Victoria, formerly Deputy Master of Melbourne Branch, Royal Mint. He was educated at Toorak College, near Melbourne, and volunteered and enlisted in the 5th Victoria Contingent during the South African War. He was then transferred as Sergeant to the Rhodesian Artillery, and afterwards gazetted 2nd Lieutenant into the 2nd Hampshire Regiment on 19 May 1900, at the recommendation of the Governor of Victoria. He was promoted to Lieutenant in March 1902 and to Captain in January 1907. He took part in the operations in Rhodesia, May 1900, and in the Transvaal and west of Pretoria in May to June 1901; and in the Orange River Colony, July to October 1901 (Queen’s Medal with 4 clasps; King’s Medal with two clasps). He served as Adjutant to the 1st Battalion from March 1909 to March 1912, and to the 4th Territorial Battalion from November 1912. He went to India with his battalion in October 1914, after the outbreak of the European War, and from there to Mesopotamia in March 1915, and was killed in action at the battle of Nasiriya, 24 July 1915.

Sold with an Army Post Card home to his wife ‘I am quite well’, signed ‘Fred 4/5/15’, two news cuttings and a copied portrait photograph, together with other research.
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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 9 years 8 months ago #25739

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Murray has him in 4th Victorian (Imperial) Contingent as 123; Private promoted to L/Cpl. The 4th Victorians saw service in Rhodesia; not the 5th - which departed OZ in 2/01. Possibly a bit over the odds, price wise, at 3.6K OZ plus commission, etc. However, it IS a double issue.
Interestingly, the Services of Officers has him as "Operations in the Transvaal, Feb 01 to June 01 and Oct 01 to 31 May 1902. Operations in ORC July 01 to October 01". Did not mention his service in the VMR.
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Unusual medal combinations that include a QSA 9 years 7 months ago #26473

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So how unusual is my grandfather's medal group? He served in South Africa 1899 to 1904, throughout WW1 and 1940 to 1945 with the LDV/Home Guard and had the Queen Victoria Medal with 4 clasps for Transvaal, Orange Free State, Modder River and Belmont. The King Edward VIII Medal with clasps for 1901 and 1902. Then the 1914 Star with clasp, 1914-1919 War Medal, Victory Medal, Long Service and Good Conduct Medal, Meritorious Service Medal, the 1939-1945 Star, Defence Medal and Victory Medal. He had the honour of being presented to the Queen in 1963 with all his medals.

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