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The Indian Contingent 5 years 11 months ago #14793

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I always felt that it was a pity that no clasps were issued with bronze QSAs - those on bronze IGS 54 and 97 always add something extra to what would otherwise be a plain medal. Of course, the scale of issue would have been far smaller that than that

of the bronze QSA.
I have been looking for a bronze QSA for some time now and I sought an example where it had some connection to one of the clasps. A little while ago, one such surfaced; engraved in running script to "39 Kneader Kuppusawmy S&T Corps". The copy of the roll page indicated a clasp entitlement of "Defence of Ladysmith" and "Transvaal". However, a firm hand on the RHS of the roll observed that "clasps not to be issued to these followers" and another note reads that "bronze medals sent by GOC South Africa to India for distribution". I do recall reading somewhere that bronze QSAs were named in India.
I would suggest that - at one time - clasps were considered for the bronze QSA; ample precedent existed in the case of the IGS; or else one might ask why the compiler of the roll bothered to make the appropriate entries? In any case, I trust that Kneader Kuppusawmy wore his medal with pride - knowing that his caling helped sustain the gallant defenders of Ladysmith. Any infantryman knows about regular rations!
Also shown on the RHS of the pic is an unnamed bronze QSA: stated to be a specimin and was from a collection formed in the 1950's.
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The Indian Contingent 5 years 11 months ago #14795

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Thanks for showing that. There is the man after yours, 40 Kneader Abdul Gafoor for sale at Aberdeen Medals. They have a fine selection of Indian QSAs from DNW sales of the past few months. I placed a bid when it was at DNW because I have a photograph of the bakery at Ladysmith where both men might possibly have worked.





On the question of clasps: my own feeling is that no clasps were originally officially intended for the bronze medal despite the precedent of Indian Medals that you mention. The original order of some 100 000 medals placed at the Royal Mint makes no mention of clasps been manufactured and sent out with the medals. Also you can not cancel what has not been intended hence no mention of cancelling the clasps. With the forms printed as they were with columns for clasps, I think the clerk just did what clerks do. Fill in as much detail as you can and thank goodness they did. Later rolls omit this information and I think the official line had filtered down by then. Speculation but with the lack of any mention of clasps for the bronze medal, I feel has some merit. (I await information from the "committee on bronze medals to natives" to report back.)

The criterion for the award of medals, as copied at www.angloboerwar.com/medals-and-awards/b...s-south-africa-medal
does mention clasps for "both classes" of medals. This was published in 1903 by which time the whole process of awarding bronze medals had been so fouled up that it was irretrievable. The enthusiasm for awarding bronze medals had also petered out so that of the original order, only some 10% were delivered. I think the regulations, in regard to bronze medals, were obsolete before they were at the printing press.

The medal were named in India.
Looking for Salutries, Salootries and Veterinary Duffadars.
I collect primarily QSAs to Indian Recipients.
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The Indian Contingent 5 years 11 months ago #14798

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Hi
I sold Gafoor's QSA some 4 years ago without knowing of his Ladysmith connection!
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