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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 3 months ago #55192

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Zuluman,

I last recorded his pair at the time you acquired them.

QSA (6), Natal (1) 1906 (Cpl NMR). Soth Dec 90 no sale. Glen Mar 93.

Elandslaagte to the NMR is lovely.

The QSA roll (WO100/260p26) list his 5 clasps (Eland DoL LN OFS and Tr). The Supplementary roll (WO100/260p34) lists his SA01 clasp.

Frank, I'm not seeing a cross against H F Schwegmann.
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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 3 months ago #55195

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Very clearly shown in WO100/363 as was the norm for members of the Natal Militia and Volunteers, very unfair.

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The QSA roll (WO100/260p26) list his 5 clasps (Eland DoL LN OFS and Tr). The Supplementary roll (WO100/260p34) lists his SA01 clasp.

Frank, I'm not seeing a cross against H F Schwegmann.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 3 months ago #55196

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djb wrote: Michael Kaplan added a late addition to this week's auction:

V245A
Five Bars: Elandslaagte; Def of L; OFS; Tvl; L Nek
168 Tpr. O.E. GARBUTT Natal MR
Confirmed in the Natal Volunteers and David Biggins Roll for Elandslaagte. PLEASE NOTE : The official MMR history by Eric Goetzsche lists him as KILLED IN ACTION on page 367 of the book.
VF 6000


Another piece of slipshod (hopeful?) research. I did some research on OE Garbutt for the current owner and he was not KiA, he died in 1903 - cause unknown. The page quoted in the NMR history is simply a roll of honour.



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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 3 months ago #55197

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Thank you Frank. I was only looking in WO100/260.
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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 2 months ago #55248

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It just seems so unfair, but, it was all down to interpretation at the time, I suppose.

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QSAs with clasp Elandslaagte 7 years 2 months ago #55255

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A late issue Elandslaagte from the next DNW auction



QSA (7) CC Eland OFS DoL LN Belf 01 (3747 Sjt H Shepherd 2 Gordon Highrs.) a later issue impressed in small capitals.

Herbert George Shepherd was born in Islington, London, on 10 December 1871 and attested for the Gordon Highlanders on 26 February 1891. Promoted Corporal on 4 March 1893, and Sergeant on 26 June 1896, he served with the 2nd Battalion in India from September 1898, and then in South Africa from 23 September 1899 until 12 April 1901, during which period he was twice Mentioned in Despatches by General Sir George White (London Gazettes 8 February 1901 and 10 September 1901). Posted to the 1st Battalion, he was promoted Colour Sergeant on 6 December 1902.

On 15 February 1908 Shepherd was reported absent without leave. He was arrested on 19 February, and was tried by the Civil Power on 24 February on two counts of theft. Sentenced to 6 months’ imprisonment with hard labour, he was reduced to the ranks and was discharged on 28 March 1908, forfeiting his entire 17 years’ service. He also forfeited his original Queen’s South Africa Medal.

In later life Shepherd had his Queen’s South Africa Medal restored to him, and lived at the Royal Star and Garter Home for Disabled Sailors and Soldiers, at Richmond, Surrey, and died there on 20 December 1938, being buried in the Soldiers Cemetery in Richmond.
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