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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 3 years 5 months ago #39639

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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 7 months 1 day ago #57649

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Thank you for your work, this is the first time ever I was able to locate the exact names of my grandfather. There are no further records of him on NAAIRS or anywhere else. My eldest brother was named after him with the exact names in sequence.
So pleased I could find this as a start.

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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 6 months 4 weeks ago #57715

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Hi there

Have you tried to get his records from the Pretoria Archives, if not try Dewald Nel at: dewald@nelantiques.co.za
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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 6 months 3 weeks ago #57784

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Brian, just letting you know I did get the document, what an amazing sight to see it. It even had his home address in Pretoria and his signature, the weird thing is it was only allocated in 1922, why would that be?

He also had two brothers in the war with him.
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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 6 months 2 weeks ago #57819

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Hi

ABO medals were only decided upon after WW1, hence all applications were received from the early 1920s onwards, I stand to be corrected the last one was issued in the 1980's?
You will notice that the majority have the same suspender as the WW1 War Medal. Those issued after WW2 will have the Africa Service Medal suspender.

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Van Zyl, Frans Willem Andries. Artillerist 6 months 2 weeks ago #57820

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The following extract from an article I wrote on the DTD/ABO long ago explains the suspender/naming variations found on the medals

ABO medals can be divided into three groups:

Type A: Medals with straight non-swivelling suspenders as used on the British War Medal (1914-1918) and with naming in impressed large upper case (often unevenly positioned), as on the South African issue of the BWM.
Type B: Medals with the WWI non-swivelling suspenders as above but with a thinner and smaller, more even type of impressed upper case naming as found on the South African WWII Africa Service Medal.
Type C: Medals with the smaller and thinner type of naming and straight non-swivelling suspenders as used for the Africa Service Medal.

Type A is applicable to all medals issued from 1921 up to October 1937. Type B medals were issued from October 1937 to February 1942.
Type C medals were issued from February 1942 right up to the last issue in 1982. Under type C there are also variations where a square dot is found after the initials and cases where it is a round dot. An interesting sub-variety also occurs on at least one batch in 1942-43 where the figure ‘6’ was used instead of the letter ‘G’ of BURGER and, in at least one instance, even as the ‘S’ in ARTILLERIS.

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