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The group to Charles Gore Hay, Earl of Erroll.


Picture courtesy of City Coins

CB n/b in gold (1900)
QSA (4) RoK, Paard, Tr, 01 (Colonel The Earl of Hay) engraved
BWM
VM (Maj.Gen. Earl of Erroll)
1887 Jubilee Medal with clasp 1897
1902 Coronation Medal
1911 Coronation Medal
Territorial Decoration GV
French Legion of Honour, Commander Neck Badge
Order of the Crown of Romania Commander Neck Badge, without swords
Monte Negro Order of Danillo, Commander Neck Badge
Order of the Star of Romania, Commander Neck Badge, with swords
Belgium Order of Leopold Officer, Knight's Breast Badge
Serbian Order of the White Eagle, Officer Breast Badge, with crossed swords
Romanian Order of the Crown, Knight Breast Badge, with crossed swords, palm leaf
Belgium Croix de Guerre Breast Badge
French Croix De Guerre Breast Badge with star and palm

During the Boer War, he commanded a mixed brigade of Imperial Yeomanry and Australian Bushmen in 1900-01. MID and CB.

This group to J H Whelan includes a bronze National Air Rifle Association Medal, obverse: Lord Roberts (J. H. Whelan (5th) U.K. vs. Sth. Africa Inter 1910).


Picture courtesy of DNW

QSA (3) CC OFS Tr (176 Cpl., C,M.S.C.)
KSA (2) (176 Cpl., Cape Med. Staff)
BWM (Pte., C.P.G. Regt.)

It sold last month at DNW for £1,100.

djb wrote: Justin,

An interesting thread. There are certainly a couple of Indian Mutiny Medals + QSA at the KRRC Museum and there is a group consisting of Crimea + QSA on this site too.

I hadn't really thought of later medals. I'm always impressed to see the Defence Medal after a QSA but the 1953 Coronation is yet another step!

I do have a picture of a QSA awarded to someone who served in the Americas and will look this out.

Regards
David

Hi,

WW2 Defence Medal won't be that unusual as it was awarded for, amongst other things, 1080 days service in the Home Guard which would fit the age profile of many QSA medal holders.

Regards

Steve Y

Steve,

The Home Guard would have been a way of serving for many Boer War veterans but you don't see too many combinations of the QSA and Defence Medal. Perhaps because the DM was not named, the medals became separated over time? I still think it impressive that a man could be awarded military medals for service over a 40 year period.

Best wishes
David

David
I once had an RN group QSA/trio/LSGC/Defence Medal and there was always the question of whether the DM was earned or just hung on there to make the group more saleable. Being a trusting sort of chap, I accepted the group for what it was and it was only a once-associate who brought it up. The type who sneers at "only a Cape Colony clasp" on a QSA, I do have to say.
Anyway, do you think it will ever be possible to check the the validity of the award of such as the WW2 BWM and Defence Medal when they are present with earlier medals such as the QSA, etc? I realise that a document came with the WW2 medals; however, mostly lost I would think.
I am pretty sure that some sort of checking system exists as I read of a WW2 lad who much later applied to be a Chelsea Pensioner and was told he was not entitled to the DM he wore - even though it was sent to him with the others!
Best regards
IL.

Here is a group to a man who served in three wars - Boer War, WWI (GSWA & GEA), and WWII (home service only).

Regards
Brett

PS I have another such 6-medal group to a man who started out in the Natal Police. He served in the Natal Rebellion as well, but since he was a reservist in WWII he was awarded only the Africa Service Medal for that war. I will take it out of storage and post a pic later.