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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 8 years 9 months ago #41529

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This trio is being advertised on eBay for just less than £1000.

Not sure what to make of the group though :(



It is described as:

Lt. A.G. BATHURST – BSA (RHODESIA), QSA (4 INC WEPENER), AFRICA G.S. (SOMALILAND)

RareTrio Combination to a British South African Police & Militia Officer...

British South Africa Medal (Rhodesia 1896) – Lieutenant A G Bathurst / South Africa Mounted Constabulary.
Queens South Africa Medal 1899 / clasps Transvaal, Wepener, Orange Free State and Cape Colony. – Captain A G Bathurst / S.th African Light Horse
The Africa General Service Medal / clasp Somaliland 1902-04 as Captain A G Bathurst.

Medal naming detail

BRITISH SOUTH AFRICA COMPANY MEDAL – RHODESIA 1896
A number of edge knocks.
Lettering. LIEUT.A.G.BATHURST.BSA .MOUNTED CONSTAB Y.
The Y in constabulary is smaller, raised slightly in position on the edge with the . under it. There is then some disturbance to the metal for about ¼ of inch..and then the metal resumes smooth.. It would appear a possibility to me that they originally attempted to put Constabulary in full but realized it could not be done.

QSA MEDAL.
4 Bars..seem all original rivits. Cape Colony, Orange Free State, Wepener, Transvaal
CAPTN. A.G.BATHURST.S.T.H.AFRICAN LIGHT HORSE

Stops under T and N / minor edge knock below this.. dots under T & H (in South)
Note.. Mr Bathurst of S.A.Light Horse is recorded by the TIMES traveling back to S.A. on Passenger Liner/Transport. 12 March 1900

Edward VII AFRICA Medal with Somaliland 1902-04 Bar.
Fairly dark even tone to an amazing quality medal, with 1 minor tarnish blemish to 6 o’clock.
CAPT:A G BATHURST.SAL.H.

Here is the QSA:



The SALH roll does not record Wepener.
Dr David Biggins
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 8 years 9 months ago #41530

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The SALH roll (WO100/274p7 lists a Capt B Bathurst with Belf CC OFS TH RoL.
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 8 years 9 months ago #41531

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Good Morning David......

There has been a lot written about this group on the BMF look here......

www.britishmedalforum.com/viewtopic.php?...08038&hilit=bathurst

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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 8 years 9 months ago #41532

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Thanks Mike,

I see the group was sold at auction last month for £200 by Golging, Young & Mawer.

www.goldingyoung.com/Lot/?sale=LN200515&lot=700A&id=465507
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Pantomime medals, the link on the BMF to a "dealer" has good pictures of the naming. I could do that!
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 8 years 9 months ago #41541

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SWB, David, Mike
Like a lot of others, I had a look at this and the rolls before not taking a certain course! However, no one on this forum has mentioned the unofficial "Wepener" and "Transvaal" clasps. Perhaps it was too obvious to merit a comment? IL is not on the BMF.
As SWB said, "pantomime" stuff.
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