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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 5 months 3 weeks ago #63790

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I am looking into J Cairne/Cairns of 2nd Brabant's Horse.

His group came up in February 2011:

QSA (3); 1914 Star (Capt E Lancs); BWM and VM (Major); IGS 1908 (1) Waziristan 19-21 (Major RE). Liverpool Medals February 2011 £800.

I last recorded part of it in 2018 at British Medals where only the QSA (3) was offered. It is no longer on offer.

I wonder why/how the group became split. Apparently the QSA is named to Cairne so perhaps someone thought they were two different recipients. The QSA was a later issue so the style of naming is non-standard. Perhaps this added to the doubt?
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 5 months 3 weeks ago #63809

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djb wrote: A Canadian at Wepener?

WO100/287p232 (2nd Royal Canadians) contains this entry for John Donald Mackay



The roll initially indicated the clasps CC, OFS and Tr but the note says 'wrote for return of OFS, 15 February 1905'. The Wepener clasp is then ticked to be added.

This is the only known Wepener clasp named to a Canadian unit and is surely a roll error.


Good Morning David...…

Do you have a copy of the following...…

CANADIANS, THE, - MEDAL ROLL - Those Who Served in South Africa 1899-1902 - Gary A. Roncetti & Edward E. Denby, Published by Denby and Associates, 1985

There is a mention of this medal and some other oddities on the different Canadian Medal Rolls.....

Mike

P.S. Also David.....

A RIDE FOR LIFE AT WEPENER, by E.H. Bowman, O.M.S.A. Publication, Vol. 29 #12 Dec. 1978
Life Member
Past-President Calgary
Military Historical Society
O.M.R.S. 1591
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 5 months 2 weeks ago #63930

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Picture courtesy of Warwick and Warwick

QSA (4) 4 CC Wep Tr Witt (1782 Pte F. Baum Cape M.R.)
KSA (2) (1782 Pte F. Baum Cape M.R.)

Felix Lutge enlisted at Grahamstown 19/6/88 aged 18, changed his name to Baum, served with 1Troop 1/1/90, B Sqn 1/10/93, HQ 1/4/94, Artillery, C Sqn 11/7/08, re-mustered in SAMR 23/6/14 retired to pension 18/6/20, appears to have only home service in WW1, also issued CGHGSM Bechuanaland clasp, 1906 LSGC, 1911 Coronation Medal and probably just a WW1 BWM.
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Another group that has been split up, a great shame.

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Indeed, Frank. Complete it is a lovely group.
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 5 months 2 weeks ago #63947

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There is a chance for a re-unite here as DNW sold the CGHGSM and Cape LG&GC three times, most recently in 2012.


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CGHGSM (1) Bechuanaland (1782 Pte., C.M. Rif.);
Cape LS&GC Ed VII (1782 Pte., Cape M.R.),

Ex Upfill-Brown Collection, B.D.W. December 1991.

Approximately 40 Edward VII Cape of Good Hope LS & GC awarded.
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