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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 3 years 11 months ago #73845

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Goose,

That is a fascinating medal. You're correct that some units were marked for Wepener on their roll and this was subsequently crossed through. I believe there is only one verified Wepener to the QRV, to Pte Glenister who served with Brabant's during the siege and later joined the QRV.

Moss's entry on the Driscoll's supplementary roll for SA01 was denied as he was on the Black List for some misdemeanour. Had he been in the ranks, he would likely have forfeited his medal but it seems the QRV medal was issued with 3 clasps on 24 July 1903. The link to Driscoll's Scouts is recorded on the QRV roll so I am surprised a medal was issued and am not clear which clasps the authorities did issue, probably the medal in the picture.
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 3 years 10 months ago #74089

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From the next DNW auction. Possibly the first re-unite of the year for someone?


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CGHGSM (1) (1923 Cpl. O. H. Court. C.M. Rif.);
[ QSA (4) CC Wep Tr Witt ]
[ KSA (2) ]
Permanent Forces of the Empire LS&GC GV (No. 7. Sqn. Sgt. Maj. O. H. Court. 1st S.A.M.R.)

Oakley Hampton Court. Enlisted CMR 12 August 1889. Served in the Bechuanaland Rebellion, 1896-7. Discharge date unknown. CMR ref DD7/60.

Possibly attended the FAMP/CMR Association meeting in 1955
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QSAs with the clasp Wepener 3 years 10 months ago #74339

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The pair to O H Court sold for a hammer price of £650. Totals (inc VAT on the commission for the UK only): £837. R16,800. Au$1,400. Can$1,400. US$1,100.

Perhaps they were re-united?
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5009-TROOPER W. MINOGUE. 2ND BATTALION BRABANT'S HORSE. 'D' TROOP.

QUEEN'S SOUTH AFRICA MEDAL.
CLASPS: CAPE COLONY /WEPENER /TRANSVAAL /WITTEBERGEN
CONDITION :GVF

A recent acquisition that I would like to add to the Wepener thread.

William Joseph Minogue enlisted into Brabant's Horse on 26th July 1900. He was discharged on the 12th of March 1901 and four days later enlisted into the Midland Mounted Rifles with service number 68. He served with the MMR for four months and then joined the Johannesburg Mounted Rifles with service number 1480 on 16th July 1901. He took his discharge on 29th January 1902 and signed up in Durban for another spell of colonial soldiering with the Scottish Horse as Trooper/Scout 36991 between 6th February and 7th July of 1902, the latter date being the disbandment of the unit (however, the medal roll for the 1st battalion ScH states 31st May 1902).

The medal roll for 1st Scottish Horse (WO100/268) confirms all entitlement to the four clasps on Minogue's QSA.
Additionally, WO100/364 the medal roll of KSA for 1st ScHo informs us that he was entitled to the KSA with both date clasps. I wonder where in the world that medal is!! It would be nice to find it for a reunite as his rank is given as Scout.

His previous service is all noted on both medal rolls. Here we have a typical record of service for a colonial man where numerous units have enjoyed his being one of their number.

I would like to end this post to a Wepener veteran by adding a few of Minogue's personal details as described on his attestation papers as follows :

Birthplace: Cape Town
DOB: 30th September 1876
Occupation: Amalgamator
Height : 5'6"
Weight : 138lbs
Colour of eyes : blue
Colour of hair: brown
Private address :Oak Avenue, Troyville, Johannesburg
Next of kin: sister
Mrs. E. C. Coombs, 4 Blackheath Villas, Greenwich, England.
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A Royal Scots QSA from the next DNW auction


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QSA (2) Cape Colony, Wepener (3053 Pte. W. Ainslie, Rl. Scots.)

Entitled to SA01. Last noted at Sotheby, January 1977
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The medal to Private Ainslie, Royal Scots, sold well yesterday for a hammer price of £800. Totals (inc VAT on the commission for the UK only): £1,030. R20,200. Au$1,800. Can$1,800. US$1,400
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