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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16797

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Frank and Jim51
As I said earlier, I just like RofK due to the tight qualifications. Frank, even the Brit. units have clasp oddities with that clasp; like the MI Bns. From what I have read, not a lot of the MI qualified. Nevertheless, I do like RofK to Colonial units. One of my favourites is a QSA to Lt. H.G. Suppple (medal named to Damant's Horse but clasps B/MR/RofK/Paa/Dreif earned with Rimington).
Jim, I have to say that a64/190 did "jump out at me" and I was prepared to go rather further on it if necessary. Perhaps enough said.
I realise that this post is rather off topic; however one of the hardest QSAs bearing RofK to find is to the QMI. Took me ages to so do.
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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16812

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Hello Ian,
Yes, I was being rather general with the Relief of Kimberley clasp and it is very scarce indeed to some corps, I seldom see nice examples to SAMIF units thesedays.
With Rimmington's men, it was merely the date that they were raised, the 12th of October 1899, that got them those early western front clasps, though, at that time there were precious few of them, they were all hand chosen and you always have to pay a considerable premium, when the odd medals come up for sale.
Regards again Frank

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As I said earlier, I just like RofK due to the tight qualifications. Frank, even the Brit. units have clasp oddities with that clasp; like the MI Bns. From what I have read, not a lot of the MI qualified. Nevertheless, I do like RofK to Colonial units. One of my favourites is a QSA to Lt. H.G. Suppple (medal named to Damant's Horse but clasps B/MR/RofK/Paa/Dreif earned with Rimington).
Jim, I have to say that a64/190 did "jump out at me" and I was prepared to go rather further on it if necessary. Perhaps enough said.
I realise that this post is rather off topic; however one of the hardest QSAs bearing RofK to find is to the QMI. Took me ages to so do.
Regards to all.
IL.

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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16929

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This morning, the medals awarded to 7278 Pte Herbert Martin, 1st KRRC, (Lot 30) arrived safely in their new home. They were accompanied by a satisfactory number of records, but with no indication of what became of Martin after he left the KRRC in 1904. I hope that his post-1904 story will emerge in time.

Also in the parcel was the ABO awarded to Burgher P W J Celliers of the Heilbron Commando (Lot 105). This acquisition marks the start of replacing some of the ABO's that moved out of my collection a few years ago. My interest in this ABO stems from the fact that about 50 men of the Heilbron Commando attacked the Imperial Light Horse on Wagon Hill early in the morning of 6/1/1900. Celliers claimed to be one of them, so he and my old friend, Tpr Gorton of the ILH, may have met on that battlefield. Four men of the Heilbron Commando were killed that day and 13 were wounded. The dead included Field-Cornet Celliers, who was perhaps related to Burgher Celliers. These, and other questions will hopefully be answered in time.

Brett

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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16930

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Well done Brett!

Please call on me should you have tracked down an Archival reference that I may be in a position to assist you with.

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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16932

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Hello Brett,
I like your ABO, that sounds like a very good buy, money well spent I suspect.
I will certainly have a look at Martin and his family for you at the weekend and will let you know anthing of interest.
Poor Martin did not get to attend the marriage of his only sister in 1898, he was out serving on Mauritius at the time, but, I dare say that she still enjoyed her day, without her little brother!
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Brett Hendey wrote: This morning, the medals awarded to 7278 Pte Herbert Martin, 1st KRRC, (Lot 30) arrived safely in their new home. They were accompanied by a satisfactory number of records, but with no indication of what became of Martin after he left the KRRC in 1904. I hope that his post-1904 story will emerge in time.

Also in the parcel was the ABO awarded to Burgher P W J Celliers of the Heilbron Commando (Lot 105). This acquisition marks the start of replacing some of the ABO's that moved out of my collection a few years ago. My interest in this ABO stems from the fact that about 50 men of the Heilbron Commando attacked the Imperial Light Horse on Wagon Hill early in the morning of 6/1/1900. Celliers claimed to be one of them, so he and my old friend, Tpr Gorton of the ILH, may have met on that battlefield. Four men of the Heilbron Commando were killed that day and 13 were wounded. The dead included Field-Cornet Celliers, who was perhaps related to Burgher Celliers. These, and other questions will hopefully be answered in time.

Brett




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City Coins 10 years 10 months ago #16933

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Rory & Frank

Thank you for taking an interest in my purchases and for the offers of help. I am still blundering around the Internet following up clues, but I will certainly need assistance sooner rather than later.

Frank

Your attachments are already new records for the Martin file and I am pleased to have them.

I had thought that Martin was an unusual surname and researching individual Martins would be relatively easy. In fact, it was a fairly fecund family. For example, on the relevant page of the 1st KRRC QSA roll, Herbert Martin was one of ten men with that surname. Perhaps serving in the KRRC was a clan tradition.

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