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QSAs with clasp Talana 2 months 1 week ago #63555

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[IGS 1895]
QSA (6) CC Tal DoL OFS LN Belf (4400 Pte H. Norton, K.R.R.C)
KSA (2) (4400 Pte H. Norton, K.R.R.C).

Harry Norton was born during 1867 in Halifax, Yorkshire, he enlisted for service aged 21 on 12th March 1888 having worked as an Overlooker and purchased his discharge from the 7th Dragoon Guards on 7th January 1887.

During his time in India he earned both the India General Service Medal 1854, with 2 bars for Hazara & Samana, with the India General Service Medal 1895, with bar for the Relief of Chitral.

He served in first the Hazara Expedition of 1891, then Miranzai Expedition of 1891, the Isazai Expedition of 1892, the Relief of Chitral during 1895, then the South African Boer War of 1899-1902.

His overseas service:
Home: 09/03/1888 - 24/11/1890
India: 25/11/1890 - 31/01/1896
Home: 1/02/1896 - 21/12/1898
South Africa: 22/12/1898 - 21/09/1902
Malta: 22/09/1902 - 26/02/1905
Crete: 27/02/1905 - 01/10/1905
Home 02/10/1905 - 15/08/1906.

Discharged at his own request after serving for 18 years & 160 days on 15th August 1906 as Corporal & Lance Sergeant.

He died at the age of 79, an Army Pensioner on 23rd June 1944, at 13 the Square, Torrisholme, Morecambe and Heysham.
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QSAs with clasp Talana 2 months 1 week ago #63562

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Both, the missing India General Service and India medals would certainly make this pair far less desirable ,certainly to me and I dare say many others too.

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QSAs with clasp Talana 2 months 1 week ago #63632

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The hammer prices for the trio of Talana QSAs sold this week by DNW. They show weaker prices than has been the norm of late.

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QSAs with clasp Talana 1 month 3 weeks ago #63914

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QSA (1) Tal (4990 Pte T.Healy. Rl. Irish Fus.).

Private J.Healy was wounded at Farquhar's Farm on 30 October 1899.
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QSAs with clasp Talana 1 month 3 weeks ago #63927

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It seems to be a growing trend at the moment, I suppose, understandable, given the way things are these days.


djb wrote: The hammer prices for the trio of Talana QSAs sold this week by DNW. They show weaker prices than has been the norm of late.

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QSAs with clasp Talana 1 month 3 weeks ago #63933

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QSA (3) Tal DoL OFS (92760 Dvr H. Hayward 13/Bty R.F.A.) 13 officially re-named

Casualty roll shows he was reported missing and released POW at Battle of Talana Hill 20/10/99 (casualty roll shows Dundee). With 8 copied pages of service record, roll and research, Henry Hayward was born in Holloway, enlisted 10/9/92 in 2nd Bty, transferred to 13th Bty 8/10/92, suffered horse kick to head 22/6/94, roll marked to England as non-combatant under Geneva Convention 6/5/00, granted furlo to join SAC 25/3/01, served South Africa with E Division SAC 26/4/01 to 25/2/03, discharged from AR 10/11/08. Does not appear to be entitled to Defence of Ladysmith clasp and also issued KSA with SAC.

My notes say:

Hayward, 92760 Driver Henry, 13th Battery, Royal Field Artillery | QSA (2) Tal OFS, KSA (2) | Taken prisoner, Talana, 20 Oct 99. Note on RFA QSA Roll says 'To England as non-combatant 5 May 00 under Geneva Convention'. Also served as Hosp Corporal in E Div SAC (E7718) 20 Apr 01 to 31 May 02. Entry crossed out on SAC QSA and Supplementary Rolls. QSA (3) inc DoL (copy). DNW Dec 00 £160 | Ref: QSA: WO100/140p178, WO100/273p78 Suppl: WO100/273p266 KSA: WO100/366p169.

There is no picture of the QSA sold by DNW in 2000 but the DoL clasp now looks fine so did someone replaced the copy with an original even though he was not entitled to it?
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